hi there,
for Document Freedom Day I need some help with designs. At the moment the website looks like that: http://www.documentfreedom.org.
What I need: - Graphics for the Web (e.g. one to advertise the day 28.02.2012) - Graphics or complete designs to be uses for promotion materials, t-shirts, buttons, etc.
We should not use a complete other logo, but perhaps you can generate a "cleaner" version of the current one: - One with DFD + the doves - Clean one, just one dove - ... your suggestions
(From my side it does not have to be green, it is also fine to make it blue again, like in the first years.)
Graphics from the past years are available on http://documentfreedom.org/2011/artwork.en.html and on http://wiki.documentfreedom.org/Artwork2011.
For the t-shirts it would be cool to have a: - "Free your bits" (Sam made a graphic for that https://fsfe.org/graphics/free-your-bits.png) - "Lord of the files" - ...
Is someone here able to help with this?
Thanks, Matthias
Hi Matthias,
I could do some graphics since I finally managed to find at least a few SVG-files at the bottom of the graphics page. (So I don't need to construct the doves from scratch again.)
We should clarify some details on the wanted outcome:
As far as I can see at least some of the texts are using "Yvonne Kaffeesatz" as font face, but I'm not entirely sure about all the texts. Do you want to stay with the same font face or can I use other free font faces instead?
Will the website get transformed as well or will it basically stay the same with a somehow altered header or just logo? (Maybe I should talk to those who will technically adapt the website in order to find out what would be most convenient to them. Whom should I talk to?)
What are the texts you want on the different media? Should I use the old texts, but with the new date?
Did I get right, that you wouldn't use any different colour than blue or green as main colour? Wouldn't it be nice to separate the different years by colours easy to distinguish? So we could use a warmish yellow or bright orange for 2012 for example...
What formats do you need first? (We could add further media and formats later on.)
It looks as if there where no document freedom days in the past. Shouldn't we at least add a rudimentary history section on the page? (I know this is no visual design issue, but it might help to improve the significance of the event if people could actually see, that this day has a history as well.)
Best Onsemeliot
On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 14:32 +0200, Matthias Kirschner wrote:
hi there,
for Document Freedom Day I need some help with designs. At the moment the website looks like that: http://www.documentfreedom.org.
What I need:
- Graphics for the Web (e.g. one to advertise the day 28.02.2012)
- Graphics or complete designs to be uses for promotion materials, t-shirts, buttons, etc.
We should not use a complete other logo, but perhaps you can generate a "cleaner" version of the current one:
- One with DFD + the doves
- Clean one, just one dove
- ... your suggestions
(From my side it does not have to be green, it is also fine to make it blue again, like in the first years.)
Graphics from the past years are available on http://documentfreedom.org/2011/artwork.en.html and on http://wiki.documentfreedom.org/Artwork2011.
For the t-shirts it would be cool to have a:
- "Free your bits" (Sam made a graphic for that https://fsfe.org/graphics/free-your-bits.png)
- "Lord of the files"
- ...
Is someone here able to help with this?
Thanks, Matthias
Hi people,
attached are three conceptual colour-sets with minor other variations. (I hope the three page PDF attachment gets through on the list.)
I would generally stick with one dove and consider more doves for patterns only...
The short "DFD" wouldn't help anyone because even the webpage doesn't use it. Therefore I left it out as well.
Best Onsemeliot
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 12:39 +0100, Onsemeliot wrote:
Hi Matthias,
I could do some graphics since I finally managed to find at least a few SVG-files at the bottom of the graphics page. (So I don't need to construct the doves from scratch again.)
We should clarify some details on the wanted outcome:
As far as I can see at least some of the texts are using "Yvonne Kaffeesatz" as font face, but I'm not entirely sure about all the texts. Do you want to stay with the same font face or can I use other free font faces instead?
Will the website get transformed as well or will it basically stay the same with a somehow altered header or just logo? (Maybe I should talk to those who will technically adapt the website in order to find out what would be most convenient to them. Whom should I talk to?)
What are the texts you want on the different media? Should I use the old texts, but with the new date?
Did I get right, that you wouldn't use any different colour than blue or green as main colour? Wouldn't it be nice to separate the different years by colours easy to distinguish? So we could use a warmish yellow or bright orange for 2012 for example...
What formats do you need first? (We could add further media and formats later on.)
It looks as if there where no document freedom days in the past. Shouldn't we at least add a rudimentary history section on the page? (I know this is no visual design issue, but it might help to improve the significance of the event if people could actually see, that this day has a history as well.)
Best Onsemeliot
On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 14:32 +0200, Matthias Kirschner wrote:
hi there,
for Document Freedom Day I need some help with designs. At the moment the website looks like that: http://www.documentfreedom.org.
What I need:
- Graphics for the Web (e.g. one to advertise the day 28.02.2012)
- Graphics or complete designs to be uses for promotion materials, t-shirts, buttons, etc.
We should not use a complete other logo, but perhaps you can generate a "cleaner" version of the current one:
- One with DFD + the doves
- Clean one, just one dove
- ... your suggestions
(From my side it does not have to be green, it is also fine to make it blue again, like in the first years.)
Graphics from the past years are available on http://documentfreedom.org/2011/artwork.en.html and on http://wiki.documentfreedom.org/Artwork2011.
For the t-shirts it would be cool to have a:
- "Free your bits" (Sam made a graphic for that https://fsfe.org/graphics/free-your-bits.png)
- "Lord of the files"
- ...
Is someone here able to help with this?
Thanks, Matthias
Designers mailing list Designers@fsfeurope.org https://mail.fsfeurope.org/mailman/listinfo/designers
Am Freitag, 4. November 2011, 14:09:13 schrieb Onsemeliot:
Hi people,
attached are three conceptual colour-sets with minor other variations. (I hope the three page PDF attachment gets through on the list.)
I would generally stick with one dove and consider more doves for patterns only...
The short "DFD" wouldn't help anyone because even the webpage doesn't use it. Therefore I left it out as well.
Best Onsemeliot
hey there
The banners are very nice;) I've worked with a similar approach. I think that a dove is also enough. Maybe one dove reaches its logo. Different color sets are a good idea. I would also change the fonts. I want to try on the weekend some fonts. I send with PacketFront with some examples. I hope that's ok.
Sorry for my bad Englich
greetings Nico
hi Nico,
thanks!
* Nico Oettel oettel.nico@gmail.com [2011-11-04 18:49:08 +0100]:
Sorry, here is the package;)
In the DFD logo I only have DF. Else it looks good.
Regards, Matthias
Hi,
In the DFD logo I only have DF. Else it looks good.
Hm... not with me ... no matter ;) I simply send the logo as a png again. Svg is also misrepresented by a simple image viewer. I've cleaned up the logo a bit and tried different colors. I like blue best. The change of color is no big deal but if we have a lot of printed media, we should first stick to green. From a red logo, I would advise;) ok, as it get further? I think we should graphics for banners, T-shirts, etc. how to use the home page. After all, the recognition is important;)
Best Nico
Hi Nico,
we shouldn't both work on the same things. If you want to do design I'm fine with that, but it doesn't make much sense if we both work on the same things.
At least it looks like it is already decided, that we will stick to the green version.
Obviously I'm in favour of my own creation because as minimalist I feel that the borders are not necessary. Also I have the impression that the three letters "DFD" won't help people to understand what the dove is about. If we want to explain it we need to write the full name - and where ever we think, that is not necessary we can omit the three letters as well.
Beside that, to my eye the font face of the three letters looks old fashioned.
I apologize if my feedback sounds harsh, but I don't want to use more time than necessary on this as I have many more things I want to do than I can possibly accomplish. If you have time to do the DFD-designs, then I will leave it to you. (In my experience it was never an advantage or satisfying for anyone to let two designers work on the same thing.)
Best Franz
On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 11:05 +0100, Nico Oettel wrote:
Hi,
In the DFD logo I only have DF. Else it looks good.
Hm... not with me ... no matter ;) I simply send the logo as a png again. Svg is also misrepresented by a simple image viewer. I've cleaned up the logo a bit and tried different colors. I like blue best. The change of color is no big deal but if we have a lot of printed media, we should first stick to green. From a red logo, I would advise;) ok, as it get further? I think we should graphics for banners, T-shirts, etc. how to use the home page. After all, the recognition is important;)
Best Nico
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Hello,
Your designs look great! They are calm, functional, well proportioned and are nice to read.
trying to give some usable feedback:
_The drop shadow works better than the glow, it adds contrast. I would tend to use a broader and a little more transparent shadow on the dove though - right now it seems a bit too "visible", if you can hardly see it but recognize immediately when it is toggled on/off you hit the sweet spot (that's how i do it).
_Concerning the colors I would try to stick to what is used already - I think you foster a stronger connection to the look and the event that way.
_The URL should use as much space as possible, to remain readable imho. It also works better because it fits nice to the other text above.
You're absolutely welcome to discard my feedback, since *you* are doing it, the designs are great already :)
On 04/11/11 14:09, Onsemeliot wrote:
Hi people,
attached are three conceptual colour-sets with minor other variations. (I hope the three page PDF attachment gets through on the list.)
I would generally stick with one dove and consider more doves for patterns only...
The short "DFD" wouldn't help anyone because even the webpage doesn't use it. Therefore I left it out as well.
Best Onsemeliot
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 12:39 +0100, Onsemeliot wrote:
Hi Matthias,
I could do some graphics since I finally managed to find at least a few SVG-files at the bottom of the graphics page. (So I don't need to construct the doves from scratch again.)
We should clarify some details on the wanted outcome:
As far as I can see at least some of the texts are using "Yvonne Kaffeesatz" as font face, but I'm not entirely sure about all the texts. Do you want to stay with the same font face or can I use other free font faces instead?
Will the website get transformed as well or will it basically stay the same with a somehow altered header or just logo? (Maybe I should talk to those who will technically adapt the website in order to find out what would be most convenient to them. Whom should I talk to?)
What are the texts you want on the different media? Should I use the old texts, but with the new date?
Did I get right, that you wouldn't use any different colour than blue or green as main colour? Wouldn't it be nice to separate the different years by colours easy to distinguish? So we could use a warmish yellow or bright orange for 2012 for example...
What formats do you need first? (We could add further media and formats later on.)
It looks as if there where no document freedom days in the past. Shouldn't we at least add a rudimentary history section on the page? (I know this is no visual design issue, but it might help to improve the significance of the event if people could actually see, that this day has a history as well.)
Best Onsemeliot
On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 14:32 +0200, Matthias Kirschner wrote:
hi there,
for Document Freedom Day I need some help with designs. At the moment the website looks like that: http://www.documentfreedom.org.
What I need:
- Graphics for the Web (e.g. one to advertise the day 28.02.2012)
- Graphics or complete designs to be uses for promotion materials, t-shirts, buttons, etc.
We should not use a complete other logo, but perhaps you can generate a "cleaner" version of the current one:
- One with DFD + the doves
- Clean one, just one dove
- ... your suggestions
(From my side it does not have to be green, it is also fine to make it blue again, like in the first years.)
Graphics from the past years are available on http://documentfreedom.org/2011/artwork.en.html and on http://wiki.documentfreedom.org/Artwork2011.
For the t-shirts it would be cool to have a:
- "Free your bits" (Sam made a graphic for that https://fsfe.org/graphics/free-your-bits.png)
- "Lord of the files"
- ...
Is someone here able to help with this?
Thanks, Matthias
Designers mailing list Designers@fsfeurope.org https://mail.fsfeurope.org/mailman/listinfo/designers
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Hi Robert,
thanks for your kind, constructive feedback.
I don't think the glow on the dove would be a problem because the shape is still clear enough to easily recognize it. (With text this would be a completely different subject of course.)
I'll test a broader, more subtle shadow as well.
I'm not sure if I get your remarks about the colours right: Do you mean my green and blue versions are close enough or do you suggest, that I actually should use exactly the colours from the past?
Since we will have many different shapes and contents I guess this single layout is not as important concerning the font sizes. In my opinion it's more about a general look and feel because I'll need to do serious variations for different claims and formats. But you're absolutely right if you are conscious about legibility. In my opinion designs should always first work and then take care of the look...
Best Onsemeliot
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 19:15 +0100, Robert Martinez wrote:
Hello,
Your designs look great! They are calm, functional, well proportioned and are nice to read.
trying to give some usable feedback:
_The drop shadow works better than the glow, it adds contrast. I would tend to use a broader and a little more transparent shadow on the dove though - right now it seems a bit too "visible", if you can hardly see it but recognize immediately when it is toggled on/off you hit the sweet spot (that's how i do it).
_Concerning the colors I would try to stick to what is used already - I think you foster a stronger connection to the look and the event that way.
_The URL should use as much space as possible, to remain readable imho. It also works better because it fits nice to the other text above.
You're absolutely welcome to discard my feedback, since *you* are doing it, the designs are great already :)
On 04/11/11 14:09, Onsemeliot wrote:
Hi people,
attached are three conceptual colour-sets with minor other variations. (I hope the three page PDF attachment gets through on the list.)
I would generally stick with one dove and consider more doves for patterns only...
The short "DFD" wouldn't help anyone because even the webpage doesn't use it. Therefore I left it out as well.
Best Onsemeliot
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 12:39 +0100, Onsemeliot wrote:
Hi Matthias,
I could do some graphics since I finally managed to find at least a few SVG-files at the bottom of the graphics page. (So I don't need to construct the doves from scratch again.)
We should clarify some details on the wanted outcome:
As far as I can see at least some of the texts are using "Yvonne Kaffeesatz" as font face, but I'm not entirely sure about all the texts. Do you want to stay with the same font face or can I use other free font faces instead?
Will the website get transformed as well or will it basically stay the same with a somehow altered header or just logo? (Maybe I should talk to those who will technically adapt the website in order to find out what would be most convenient to them. Whom should I talk to?)
What are the texts you want on the different media? Should I use the old texts, but with the new date?
Did I get right, that you wouldn't use any different colour than blue or green as main colour? Wouldn't it be nice to separate the different years by colours easy to distinguish? So we could use a warmish yellow or bright orange for 2012 for example...
What formats do you need first? (We could add further media and formats later on.)
It looks as if there where no document freedom days in the past. Shouldn't we at least add a rudimentary history section on the page? (I know this is no visual design issue, but it might help to improve the significance of the event if people could actually see, that this day has a history as well.)
Best Onsemeliot
On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 14:32 +0200, Matthias Kirschner wrote:
hi there,
for Document Freedom Day I need some help with designs. At the moment the website looks like that: http://www.documentfreedom.org.
What I need:
- Graphics for the Web (e.g. one to advertise the day 28.02.2012)
- Graphics or complete designs to be uses for promotion materials, t-shirts, buttons, etc.
We should not use a complete other logo, but perhaps you can generate a "cleaner" version of the current one:
- One with DFD + the doves
- Clean one, just one dove
- ... your suggestions
(From my side it does not have to be green, it is also fine to make it blue again, like in the first years.)
Graphics from the past years are available on http://documentfreedom.org/2011/artwork.en.html and on http://wiki.documentfreedom.org/Artwork2011.
For the t-shirts it would be cool to have a:
- "Free your bits" (Sam made a graphic for that https://fsfe.org/graphics/free-your-bits.png)
- "Lord of the files"
- ...
Is someone here able to help with this?
Thanks, Matthias
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On 04/11/11 23:05, Onsemeliot wrote:
Hi Robert,
thanks for your kind, constructive feedback.
I don't think the glow on the dove would be a problem because the shape is still clear enough to easily recognize it. (With text this would be a completely different subject of course.)
I'll test a broader, more subtle shadow as well.
I'm not sure if I get your remarks about the colours right: Do you mean my green and blue versions are close enough or do you suggest, that I actually should use exactly the colours from the past?
I would not introduce new colors - in case there actually *IS* something like an official color. If the green of the past is a mere coincidence, and the years before were yellow and pink there is no problem.
Since we will have many different shapes and contents I guess this single layout is not as important concerning the font sizes. In my opinion it's more about a general look and feel because I'll need to do serious variations for different claims and formats. But you're absolutely right if you are conscious about legibility. In my opinion designs should always first work and then take care of the look...
Your're right legibility is the key, you don't want to win a design contest in th first place but get a message through. But of course a nice look always supports any message :)
I just wanted to say that I preferred the versions with the larger URL text, since they fit better and use all available space.
Greetings, Robert
Hi Robert.
On Sat, 2011-11-05 at 02:27 +0100, Robert Martinez wrote:
I would not introduce new colors - in case there actually *IS* something like an official color. If the green of the past is a mere coincidence, and the years before were yellow and pink there is no problem.
Basically I don't really know exactly what colours were used before 2011. There is no history on the web page. But Matthias mentioned that blue was the colour of the past.
I just wanted to say that I preferred the versions with the larger URL text, since they fit better and use all available space.
In my experience using all the available space to fill in the text as big as possible is not the best way to support legibility. Especially if there is more text than just one phrase. Empty room is very important for legibility. But I don't want to oppose your view. It's only a general remark because I used to fill up all space and learned that this didn't work very good usually. Nevertheless I think you're right concerning the URL. But maybe even more important in this case is enough contrast.
I'll wait for Matthias feedback before I try develop any of my suggestions further. Maybe he has a strong opinion on colours or any other aspect. And there are still some open questions...
Thanks again, Onsemeliot
On 05/11/11 08:40, Onsemeliot wrote:
Basically I don't really know exactly what colours were used before 2011. There is no history on the web page. But Matthias mentioned that blue was the colour of the past.
If there is no standard - consider to establish one! It can be a good idea to start making *some* element other than the dove a recognizable part of the document freedom project. Does not have to be a color though.
I just wanted to say that I preferred the versions with the larger URL text, since they fit better and use all available space.
In my experience using all the available space to fill in the text as big as possible is not the best way to support legibility.
That's not what I meant. I wanted to say from the two URL variants you used, the bigger one is better. And you're totally right - using _all_ the space would make the whole thing explode :D
Especially if there is more text than just one phrase. Empty room is very important for legibility. But I don't want to oppose your view. It's only a general remark because I used to fill up all space and learned that this didn't work very good usually. Nevertheless I think you're right concerning the URL. But maybe even more important in this case is enough contrast.
I'll wait for Matthias feedback before I try develop any of my suggestions further. Maybe he has a strong opinion on colours or any other aspect. And there are still some open questions...
I bet he'll like it. :)
Thanks again, Onsemeliot
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Hi,
thanks to both of you for working on this! This sort of support really helps us a lot.
On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 08:40:10AM +0100, Onsemeliot wrote:
Hi Robert.
On Sat, 2011-11-05 at 02:27 +0100, Robert Martinez wrote:
I would not introduce new colors - in case there actually *IS* something like an official color. If the green of the past is a mere coincidence, and the years before were yellow and pink there is no problem.
Basically I don't really know exactly what colours were used before 2011. There is no history on the web page. But Matthias mentioned that blue was the colour of the past.
IIRC, blue was used for the first (and perhaps also the second) edition of the campaign, in 2007 and 2008. Since 2009, we switched to green.
Unless there's a good reason to go back to blue, I would recommend sticking with green -- especially as this would allow participating groups to reuse any support materials they've prepared in the past.
Another point in the design brief (at the risk of repeating something that has been said before) should be that the design of the logo and other items should be suitable for printing on T-Shirts and (to a lesser extent) on paper in black and white. So it should be something that works when printed in a single color on a colored background.
And that should be pretty much the end of my interference with design work :-) I'm sure that whatever you come up with will look and work great -- and it'll end up in lots of places :)
Again, thanks for working on this!
Best regards, Karsten
* Karsten Gerloff gerloff@fsfeurope.org [2011-11-05 11:13:24 +0100]:
IIRC, blue was used for the first (and perhaps also the second) edition of the campaign, in 2007 and 2008. Since 2009, we switched to green.
Yes, that's right.
Unless there's a good reason to go back to blue, I would recommend sticking with green -- especially as this would allow participating groups to reuse any support materials they've prepared in the past.
Yes, that's an advantage. Also that people recognise it better.
Another point in the design brief (at the risk of repeating something that has been said before) should be that the design of the logo and other items should be suitable for printing on T-Shirts and (to a lesser extent) on paper in black and white. So it should be something that works when printed in a single color on a colored background.
Yes, T-Shirts, flags, leaflets, websites.
Regards, Matthias
hi Onsemeliot,
sorry for the late reply. I was too busy with some other work (AVM, FSCONS, ...)
* Onsemeliot onsemeliot@riseup.net [2011-11-04 12:39:39 +0100]:
As far as I can see at least some of the texts are using "Yvonne Kaffeesatz" as font face, but I'm not entirely sure about all the texts. Do you want to stay with the same font face or can I use other free font faces instead?
At the moment we do not have a design guide for DFD yet. So you can use other Free Fonts. But tell us which one you used.
Will the website get transformed as well or will it basically stay the same with a somehow altered header or just logo? (Maybe I should talk to those who will technically adapt the website in order to find out what would be most convenient to them. Whom should I talk to?)
It the moment it is only me and Alessandro working on the website. Any help appreciated. We can change the CSS and the graphics. But I cannot do that.
What are the texts you want on the different media? Should I use the old texts, but with the new date?
I will soon provide you some texts. For the moment it is mainly making a good, clean version of the logo, and the website design. Than we can work on leaflets, etc.
Did I get right, that you wouldn't use any different colour than blue or green as main colour? Wouldn't it be nice to separate the different years by colours easy to distinguish? So we could use a warmish yellow or bright orange for 2012 for example...
Might be an idea. Although using the same color has the advantage of using materials again (like T-shirts, etc.).
What formats do you need first? (We could add further media and formats later on.)
I propose to generate SVGs, which others can use for whatever they want to produce.
It looks as if there where no document freedom days in the past. Shouldn't we at least add a rudimentary history section on the page? (I know this is no visual design issue, but it might help to improve the significance of the event if people could actually see, that this day has a history as well.)
Yes, you are absolutely right, that we should do this. I want to have /2011 /2010 /2009 etc for each year + migrate the old news, etc. to the page, as well as link to reports.
Regards, Matthias
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 14:46 +0100, Matthias Kirschner wrote:
It the moment it is only me and Alessandro working on the website. Any help appreciated. We can change the CSS and the graphics. But I cannot do that.
I could work with CSS-files too, but I'm quite buzy at the moment. When do we need to be finished?
For the moment it is mainly making a good, clean version of the logo, and the website design.
You didn't comment my three color-variations. Didn't you see them?
Although using the same color has the advantage of using materials again (like T-shirts, etc.).
So blue or green? I don't know if there are blue materials left still. I guess there are more green materials left...
I propose to generate SVGs, which others can use for whatever they want to produce.
Of course I will do all layouts in SVG (inkscape).
Best, Franz
* Franz Gratzer franz.gratzer@fsfe.org [2011-11-11 09:18:51 +0100]:
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 14:46 +0100, Matthias Kirschner wrote:
It the moment it is only me and Alessandro working on the website. Any help appreciated. We can change the CSS and the graphics. But I cannot do that.
I could work with CSS-files too, but I'm quite buzy at the moment. When do we need to be finished?
The website should be finished by end of December. Stian (in CC) also said he will help (he did the pdfreaders.org webdesign).
Regards, Matthias
* Franz Gratzer franz.gratzer@fsfe.org [2011-11-11 09:18:51 +0100]:
For the moment it is mainly making a good, clean version of the logo, and the website design.
You didn't comment my three color-variations. Didn't you see them?
Yes, I saw them. Sorry, when I was not clear. After some discussion I am in favour of staying to the green, maybe adopt it a little bit.
Although using the same color has the advantage of using materials again (like T-shirts, etc.).
So blue or green? I don't know if there are blue materials left still. I guess there are more green materials left...
Green. There are mainly flags and some old posters left with blue.
Of course I will do all layouts in SVG (inkscape).
Perfect! Matthias
On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 08:10 +0100, Matthias Kirschner wrote:
Sorry, when I was not clear. After some discussion I am in favour of staying to the green, maybe adopt it a little bit.
Do you mean adapting my green suggestion further or do you want to stay closer to the original green layout than I did with my layout?
Franz
Hi Franz,
* Franz Gratzer franz.gratzer@fsfe.org [2011-11-13 10:23:39 +0100]:
On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 08:10 +0100, Matthias Kirschner wrote:
Sorry, when I was not clear. After some discussion I am in favour of staying to the green, maybe adopt it a little bit.
Do you mean adapting my green suggestion further or do you want to stay closer to the original green layout than I did with my layout?
Sorry, I do not see any attachements you send. Have I missed an e-mail? Which do you mean?
Regards, Matthias
* Franz Gratzer franz.gratzer@fsfe.org [2011-11-13 10:23:39 +0100]:
On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 08:10 +0100, Matthias Kirschner wrote:
Sorry, when I was not clear. After some discussion I am in favour of staying to the green, maybe adopt it a little bit.
Do you mean adapting my green suggestion further or do you want to stay closer to the original green layout than I did with my layout?
Ok, now I got it that you wrote it with your nick.
I meant to develop the green solution further.
Thanks a lot, Matthias
Hi Matthias,
it looks like we ended up with a misunderstanding. I thought Nico would develop the DFD designs further, but because there was no further communication on it I guess nobody did anything. (I'm very busy at the moment as well.)
And you mentioned that the web page should get ready by end of December. If we really want to have it ready by then we shouldn't waste any more time.
I'm not entirely sure how to proceed. Is Stian a designer as well or was he the coder for pdfreaders.org?
And is there anyone responsible for the content and structure or should I assume, that we stick to the same as before in order to develop designs?
I don't know what system you plan to use for updating the page and if I could use HTML5 code for example or if that would cause any problems. Should it be built as static html-page or do we need to integrate it in any established web revision system and my task would therefore be to develop matching templates for this system?
Sorry for this big amount of questions (again)...
Best Franz
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 15:03 +0100, Matthias Kirschner wrote:
- Franz Gratzer franz.gratzer@fsfe.org [2011-11-13 10:23:39 +0100]:
On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 08:10 +0100, Matthias Kirschner wrote:
Sorry, when I was not clear. After some discussion I am in favour of staying to the green, maybe adopt it a little bit.
Do you mean adapting my green suggestion further or do you want to stay closer to the original green layout than I did with my layout?
Ok, now I got it that you wrote it with your nick.
I meant to develop the green solution further.
Thanks a lot, Matthias
hi Franz,
(I CCed Sam, because he will be the main responsible for the website.)
* Franz Gratzer franz.gratzer@fsfe.org [2011-11-27 20:27:55 +0100]:
it looks like we ended up with a misunderstanding. I thought Nico would develop the DFD designs further, but because there was no further communication on it I guess nobody did anything. (I'm very busy at the moment as well.)
I guess we are all very busy at the moment :-/
And you mentioned that the web page should get ready by end of December. If we really want to have it ready by then we shouldn't waste any more time.
During FSCONS and the time around I spoke to several people. Sam will now also work on DFD, and as I said before Stian.
I'm not entirely sure how to proceed. Is Stian a designer as well or was he the coder for pdfreaders.org?
Markus Meier did the logo for PDFreaders and Stian did the design and implementation of the website.
So together with you here, we have a good team.
And is there anyone responsible for the content and structure or should I assume, that we stick to the same as before in order to develop designs?
What we will have is: - Front page explaining Open Standards with a picture of someone (might be celebraty, might be one of use) and a short text, why Open Standards are important for her/him. linking to a page where a lot of people do this (e.g. http://documentfreedom.org/testimonials.en.html) - We have events - We have news - Possibility to contribute - We have proposed activities - Donations - We will have an artwork section - We will have an artwork section - We have contact information - We will have many many translations
I don't know what system you plan to use for updating the page and if I could use HTML5 code for example or if that would cause any problems. Should it be built as static html-page or do we need to integrate it in any established web revision system and my task would therefore be to develop matching templates for this system?
We will use the same build system as on fsfe.org. For the rest I leave the answers to Sam.
Thanks a lot! Matthias
On Sunday 27 November 2011 19:27:55 Franz Gratzer wrote:
I'm not entirely sure how to proceed. Is Stian a designer as well or was he the coder for pdfreaders.org?
I'm working on the DFD site at the moment and I'm trying to catch up with the discussion that's been taking place.
I need to add a new logo with the 2012 date on the site, and create a new / modified design for the DFD site (first in svg, then in css / xslt).
I'm keen to include ideas that have been expressed on the designers list already, but the only actual designs I can find relate to posters rather than the website as far as I can see.
If anyone has concrete design ideas that they'd like to see implemented on the website please let me know.
I need to get changes out to the website fast, but I shall post my designs to this list when they are ready.
Thanks,
Sam.
* Torsten Grote Torsten.Grote@fsfe.org wrote:
On Friday 11 November 2011 09:18:51 Franz Gratzer wrote:
You didn't comment my three color-variations. Didn't you see them?
This was your first email in this thread. Can you please make sure, that the one with the graphics really arrived?
I think Franz wrote under the alias of Onsemeliot earlier in this thread (if I parsed the mail headers correctly). The graphics were attached to his mail, oh and I just noticed he posted them again.