Hi,
with the help of Matthias I finally managed to finish the F-Droid flyer I started to work on a long time ago.
If you like, please provide feedback for everything that can be improved without major changes.
The flyer is supposed to be folded. So the first page is the right-most section and the last page is in the middle. You'll figure it out ;)
Front: http://grobox.de/fsfe/folder_front.en.pdf
Back (inside): http://grobox.de/fsfe/folder_back.en.pdf
Kind Regards, Torsten
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Torsten Grote Torsten.Grote@fsfe.org wrote:
If you like, please provide feedback for everything that can be improved without major changes.
In the section on Cyanogenmod:
when -> than their -> the (mixing of Cyanogenmod being software and a project)
About Twidere: it seems Twidere does not (really) work with Status.Net anymore in the latest versions (see https://github.com/mariotaku/twidere/issues/90)
Did you also think about creating a poster for F-Droid to stick on the wall next to the coffee machine? :) I want to annoy my colleagues with this!
Regards, François
Great folder. Thank you for all the work you put in.
This are my remarks:
In the white box "What is free software" on the outside I would shorten the line length. There is enough space to not get this close to the border of the box with the text lines. As well in this box the last words are missing a space: "Free Software".
The final link in the box about FSFE is neither in the center nor left or right aligned. I would align it left, but if you feel it should be centered, it should be done properly in order to not look messy.
In the "Support Our Work" paragraph I would give the fellowship link more space. Now it looks squeezed in without reason since there is plenty of space for a more generous placement without spreading too far to loose the clear relation to this paragraph. As well there is a dash in the middle of: "autonomy".
On the inside I think the last sentence sould use: "is" instead of "are": "More information is available at:".
As well I fear the contrast is not high enough to get a good readability of copy text on paper. Therefore I would brighten the background where normal copy text is placed upon it.
At least on my screen the block-text doesn't format lines very well. I believe Inkscape is not very good in that regard and I would very carefully control the line breaks by hand. In my opinion it looks much better to split up a word than to have huge gaps with empty space in the lines.
Best Franz
On Mon, 2013-07-01 at 00:26 +0200, Torsten Grote wrote:
Hi,
with the help of Matthias I finally managed to finish the F-Droid flyer I started to work on a long time ago.
If you like, please provide feedback for everything that can be improved without major changes.
The flyer is supposed to be folded. So the first page is the right-most section and the last page is in the middle. You'll figure it out ;)
Front: http://grobox.de/fsfe/folder_front.en.pdf
Back (inside): http://grobox.de/fsfe/folder_back.en.pdf
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Hi Torsten,
On 01/07/13 00:26, Torsten Grote wrote:
with the help of Matthias I finally managed to finish the F-Droid flyer I started to work on a long time ago.
thanks for working on this!
If you like, please provide feedback for everything that can be improved without major changes.
as the others already pointed out some typos I would like to wait for my own proofreading until there is the new version - else I have to fear to constantly repeat typos that are already seen.
In general, I think the Flyer is a very good idea and it is also very well done. And after this back-slapping some additional thoughts:
- The introduction might be improved, esp the first sentence. Or which audience do we like to reach? The user that already knows something about FS? Obviously not, because else there wouldn't be a need for the backcover that explains what Free Software is. But then I would begin with another sentence in the Inlay. 'Cause now it starts with "Think of F-Droid more as a repository than a store" -> I can imagine that people do not know what a repository is. Even worse: They might know / have heard that a repository is "something with Linux" and something they will never understand. So they might think that it is better to keep for the store. We could easily work around this problem by turning the sentence/argumentation around. "F-Droid is not the typical store where you buy something. Instead, it is a catalogue (or repository) of Free Software applications for the Android platform." BTW: The following sentence is not a good read cause it is missing an object. Better version would be: "USING IT, you can easily ..." or "F-Droid allows you to ..." or something alike
- I like the idea of a direct download link, that makes it so much easier to install for other people! Just one question: Are we sure that the link will not change? Did you had some discussion with the F-Droid team about this?
- The section about "some available apps": I wonder how did you selsct the given choice? I remember that I found Mustard somehow better than Twidere as you could more easily switch from one account to another. Or what about Kontalk - a whatsapp replacement or owncloud?
- I have the feeling in the section "Liberate your entire phone" that the sentence "Do you want a mobile device that does not spy on you?" is out o context as the paragraph before and thereafter are talking about freedom not privacy.
- On the backside I am missing a paragraph stating something like: "This flyer is printed by the FSFE because we support F-Droids efforts to spread freedom on mobile phones. The Free Software Foundation Europe is a non-profit organisation [...]" Else I have to think too much to get the link.
Same comments are in the etherpad
best regards, Erik
- -- Erik Albers | https://fsfe.org/about/albers Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE) - Campaigns & Community Support us now: https://fsfe.org/support/?eal
Free as in Freedom!
On Monday 01 July 2013 00:26:23 Torsten Grote wrote:
If you like, please provide feedback for everything that can be improved without major changes.
Thanks a lot everyone for your feedback!
You spotted some important stuff and also some tiny details which I would have missed otherwise. With your help, this flyer will turn out to be awesome! :)
In order to simplifies things for me I started to incorporate your feedback for the front side only for now. Once we are happy with it, I'll move to the back/inside part.
Some people didn't like the font and someone suggested Roboto. I did the headline of the first page in Roboto. What do you think?
http://grobox.de/fsfe/folder_front.en.pdf
Here's what I didn't do:
- didn't round the corners of the photo in front, because hard to do and corners in screenshots on the back are also not rounded - the free beer headline was controversial, for now I kept beer and incorporated other suggestions to make it nicer
Please let me know if I've missed something!
François suggested a F-Droid poster. We have a general Free Your Android poster printed already. I'm not sure we need a dedicated one for F-Droid.
Kind Regards, Torsten
Hi Torsten,
* Torsten Grote Torsten.Grote@fsfe.org [2013-07-04 00:29:09 +0200]:
http://grobox.de/fsfe/folder_front.en.pdf
I found one American "organi-zation" instead the British "organi-sation" in there. Else it looks good!!
Thanks, Matthias
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On 04/07/13 00:29, Torsten Grote wrote:
On Monday 01 July 2013 00:26:23 Torsten Grote wrote:
If you like, please provide feedback for everything that can be improved without major changes.
Thanks a lot everyone for your feedback!
You spotted some important stuff and also some tiny details which I would have missed otherwise. With your help, this flyer will turn out to be awesome! :)
thanks for your effort and quick improvements!
Some people didn't like the font and someone suggested Roboto. I did the headline of the first page in Roboto. What do you think?
Your mean "Free Your Android!" ? I don't like that font very much. The letters are too high in contrast to how narrow they are.
Please let me know if I've missed something!
On the Front side, as a bullet point under "Get Free Apps", I would integrate Free Software in the end, like: Get Free Apps: - [...] - No Google Account * - Solely Free Software * I think that's is an important information that should be visible on the front-page. Else it could be misunderstood (by random guys passing by) as "just another ad that promises something with no ads and free of charge"
On the middle page: "Like the Free Your Android campaign [...]" - -> "Like _this_ Free Your Android campaign [...]"? Else people might think what is "the FYA campaign"?
"[...] there are many ways to contribute." - -> Somehow, I am missing a connection between the text and the following link. I would either end with a colon, or - maybe better - add a new sentence "Find out how:", "Find more information:", "Please look at:"
"Your donations are critical to our strength and autonomy. Join the Fellowship to enable us [...]" - -> I would start with a general statement and then ask for direct help ("you") and I do not like so much the imperative used in the second sentence. Rewritten proposal: "Donations are critical to our strength and help us to act autonomous. You can support us by joining the Fellowship and enable us [...]" And at the end of the sentence, for my feeling, the same is true what I have mentioned above: To get a direct connection between the text and the following link, I would end the sentence with a colon.
On the left page: I am not happy with the first paragraph. What is the message here? - F-Droid is free of charge - Google Play and Apples App store are also mostly free of charge - Free Software is not about price I just can imagine here what should be the message. Maybe: - Most apps are free of charge, google as well as apple. - the same is true for f-droid where all of them are free of charge - but this is not the point, because free software is not about the price ?? But still: Why mix the Free Software message now with Google and Apple. Reading it again, I get the feeling that F-Droid, Google and Apple are the same, they are all app-stores. While the whole Flyer is there to explain the opposite...
Second last paragraph: "Even though you may not have the skills to directly exercise all of your freedom, you [...]" I think this should be plural, "all of your freedomS", no? but I wonder: Do people understand what freedoms you are talking about here? Especially as the explaining box is still to come ...
François suggested a F-Droid poster. We have a general Free Your Android poster printed already. I'm not sure we need a dedicated one for F-Droid.
By now, I don't think so. Are you in contact with the f-droid install party guys? They maybe have something alike.
I also copied the text in the Etherpad, again: http://etherpad.guifi.net/SzP2U1V284
best regards, Erik
- -- Erik Albers | https://fsfe.org/about/albers Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE) - Campaigns & Community Support us now: https://fsfe.org/support/?eal
Free as in Freedom!