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system-hackers service agreement
by Daniel Pocock 27 Aug '16

27 Aug '16

Looking at the thread about the new blog team, it is clear that some things are dependent on the relationship that teams have with the system-hackers group Ignoring the current configuration of the systems, what is the ideal service that the system-hackers would like to be able to provide? E.g. - which OS/distribution? E.g. Debian - would more than one OS be feasible or required? (this multiplies support effort, should be avoided) - will services run in virtual machines and which technology will be used (KVM, XCP, Openstack, ...), e.g. will the blogging service run in a VM isolated from the services operated by other teams? - benefit: each team can receive major OS updates at different times - disadvantage: extra effort for system-hackers team, needs more IP addresses - how fast can packaged security updates (e.g. from Debian) be deployed? Will the updates be automatically deployed by cron or something, or will the team aim for a 24x7 support roster? In the latter case, are more volunteers needed in the system-hackers team? - how will major upgrades (e.g. from Debian 8.0 to 9.0) be deployed? E.g. aim to begin upgrade 3 months after the official release, individual teams using a particular server can veto the upgrade until 7 months have passed - which services must be supported by the system-hackers (I'd suggest backups, public web site, wiki, IP address allocation, SSL certificate creation, monitoring, Git, DNS, authentication/OpenID/LDAP, mail, mailing lists, SIP, XMPP and any services that the system-hackers may depend on in the course of their own activities) - are the system-hackers willing to support a database such as PostgreSQL for use by other teams? Can they provide a convenient way for members of other teams to take snapshots of their databases for use in test servers? - will the system-hackers allow members of other teams to use sudo? Maybe there are other things too, it would be good to see the system-hackers provide a list of what you would be willing to support and a separate list of what people think they need the system-hackers to support.

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IRC cloaks on Freenode available
by Jonas Oberg 26 Aug '16

26 Aug '16

Dear all, if you're a Freenode user, perhaps regularly a part of our #fsfe channel, you now have the option of getting an FSFE-affiliated cloak. For those of you who don't know, an IRC cloak is a replacement for your IP number or domain name when people query your name on IRC, so instead of showing up as "jonas(a)192.243.8.174" (as an example), you'd show up as "jonas@fsfe/jonas" [^1]. I documented this here: https://wiki.fsfe.org/TechDocs/FellowshipServices#IRC If you want a cloak, you need to have a NickServ registered name, an FSFE account (by being a Fellow or a volunteer[^2]), and you need to let me know you want one: I'll communicate this to the Freenode staff which will activate your cloak. AS there may be quite a few cloak requests in the beginning, I'll collect requests and send to Freenode on a ~weekly basis. [^1]: Please note though that a cloak while giving some privacy does not give you perfect privacy and it's generally not much of a problem for someone to figure out your IP address anyway. [^2]: See https://wiki.fsfe.org/TechDocs/AccountCreation for more information. -- Jonas Öberg, Executive Director Free Software Foundation Europe | jonas(a)fsfe.org Your donation enables our work (fsfe.org/donate)

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EOMA68 crowdfunding campaign (the last few days) plus ways forward for Libre Computing
by Paul Boddie 25 Aug '16

25 Aug '16

Hello, I last mentioned EOMA68 on this list in early July, noting that I would have blogged about it, too, but couldn't at the time. Unfortunately, real life got in the way of either following up with the blog volunteers about the blogging service (which I greatly appreciate as a service of the FSFE Fellowship) or actually writing anything about this topic on my blog. In fact, I only wrote about it there recently: https://blogs.fsfe.org/pboddie/?p=1314 (Reminder: EOMA68 is a standard for modular plug-in computer cards; the campaign offers one kind of card with different operating system choices, plus some devices that can use the card.) Once again, I may have pledged for rewards in the campaign, but I'm not explicitly endorsing it. Everyone should weigh up the different factors and their own needs when supporting such efforts. However, it is worth noting that there are only 4 days left until the campaign ends: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop (Here, I am only repeating this because maybe other people had real life intervene on them in July and August, too.) There has been a range of responses from enthusiasm about the modular computing concept and support for hardware that fully supports Free Software through to criticism about the performance and the ethical record of the system-on-a-chip vendor that happens to be used for the first card. Reading some of the responses, I note that maybe there is some kind of law of public discourse that the more severe the criticism, the less constructive it tends to be. On this list, there was a discussion about how bad modern x86 derivatives are by enabling surveillance at the hardware level... http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-April/010912.html ...but either people feel completely powerless about it or they like to talk about the situation more than how to alleviate or resolve the situation. Amusingly, all sorts of observations came up about that discussion and I even mentioned one of them here: https://blogs.fsfe.org/pboddie/?p=1305 (Yes, SPARC might even be a candidate for an alternative hardware platform, but its supporters need to bring finance and people to the effort instead of reminiscing about Sun's glory days. The referenced discussion is, however, rather interesting to read in parts.) Now, I saw a couple of responses to my previous message, combining the EOMA68 topic with the surveillance topic - SPARC even got a mention! - but maybe July is not a month in which much discussion tends to take place. But I feel that there does need to be a proper discussion about the way forward for Libre Computing (Free Software on Libre Hardware) and how the various communities can deliver sustainable platforms: * Whether EOMA68 (and its siblings) or something similar (see next point) has a role to play in this, perhaps only as a step towards the eventual goal of a set of platforms we can rely on * Whether there are other ongoing efforts in this area (not one-offs) that just need more attention than they have been getting * Whether or when libre CPUs and SoCs might be viable choices for such platforms * Whether some existing products are good-enough choices for hardware platforms, even if they are not libre hardware or employ encumbered microarchitectures (which a lot of established products do, of course) There's an interesting summary of processor suitability done for the criteria of EOMA68 that some might find interesting: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/updates/picking-a-processor "It should also be pretty clear that there is literally not a single processor that checks every single box! As in, there is not a single processor in the world that is eco-conscious, respects software freedom, is ethical and accessible. This is a pretty insane situation to be in, in the year 2016." There needs to be a constructive debate about incrementally improving this situation. Instead of "I hate that processor" or "wait for my radical SoC I've just started designing", people need to help find products that uphold software freedom and privacy while also being usable (obtainable, for the most part) for small libre hardware projects. And there needs to be an appreciation that this work is not meant to create the "toy of the month" - a gadget that is fun for a while and then stashed away somewhere - but instead to build an environment where we shouldn't be constantly needing to urgently figure out what kind of hardware we can use that uphold our values. So, does anyone have any opinion about the kinds of projects (most likely being undertaken already) that need our attention or support? How do you envisage a sustainable computing platform? And since all discussions inevitably lament how much memory Firefox uses these days, how do you envisage a less demanding form of computing being extended to online services? Sorry for the long message! Paul

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easy stuff
by phil 25 Aug '16

25 Aug '16

Greetings! I've found a very easy tutorial on the stuff we were talking about, look here <http://rdishavishi.jasonbeyer.com/lnheqlb> Regards, phil

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Take part! Freedom not Fear 2016: 14–17 October, Brussels
by Friedemann Ebelt 24 Aug '16

24 Aug '16

please announce on discussion(a)lists.fsfe.org, merci Friedemann! ------------ Dear fellow activists, take part in Freedom not Fear 2016: Hold a session on free software etc., mark your calendar now and spread the word: Freedom not Fear 2016 is looking forward to your projects, your campaign and your session. Meet NGOs and activists from all over Europe and take action for digital human rights. Join us in Brussels, we also try to help you with accommodation and such. Freedom not Fear 2016 14-17 October 2016 (Friday-Monday) Mundo B, Rue d'Edimbourg 26, BXL https://www.freedomnotfear.org – program & schedule is work in progress: https://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/Freedom_Not_Fear_2016/Schedule_here – Register for travel allowances now! https://www.freedomnotfear.org/2016/registration-travel-allowances Everybody is welcome to take part, help organise and support Freedom not Fear 2016! Friedemann Ebelt ------------------------------------------------ More information on Freedom not Fear 2016 https://edri.org/freedom-not-fear-2016/ ------------------------------------------------ Freedom not Fear (FNF) is an annual meeting for civil rights activists from all across Europe. You are invited to join us on 14-17 October, organise discussions on your own topics, and use this opportunity to meet EU politicians! At FNF, civil society members meet in Brussels for four days to work for freedom in the digitised world. They plan for and engage in action against increasing surveillance and other attacks on civil rights. FNF 2016 is organised by volunteers and coordinated by EDRi member Digitalcourage and via the akv-international mailing list. >From Friday 14 October to Sunday 16 October, activists meet at Mundo-b to discuss current topics in European data protection, surveillance and more. Topics already planned include surveillance law metrics, the so-called Privacy Shield, biometric RFID passports, the reform of the ePrivacy Directive, and proposed EU contract law. On Monday 17 October, a visit to the EU Parliament is being organised for meetings with Members of European Parliament (MEPs) and European Commission staff. Participants who stay on for the Monday visit are eligible for travel allowances sponsored by MEPs Julia Reda, Jan Philipp Albrecht and Josef Weidenholzer. For those wanting to benefit from these travel allowances, Digitalcourage has set up an online registration page. FNF is still looking for volunteers to take on organisational tasks, suggest and run discussions, propose and organise MEP meetings, and more. People wanting to help can simply edit the FNF 2016 wiki pages hosted by AK Vorrat, or contact Digitalcourage by e-mail. Joining the akv-international mailing list is also encouraged. Freedom Not Fear website https://www.freedomnotfear.org/ Wiki pages for FNF 2016 https://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/Freedom_Not_Fear_2016 akv-international mailing list https://listen.akvorrat.org/mailman/listinfo/akv-international Venue: Mundo-b on OpenStreetMap http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/139078492 Register online for travel allowances and accommodation https://aktion.digitalcourage.de/fnf2016-en E-mail contact contact(a)freedomnotfear.org -- Friedemann Ebelt | Redaktion | Kampagnen Digitalcourage e.V., Marktstr. 18, D-33602 Bielefeld https://digitalcourage.de/ | http://bigbrotherawards.de/ Vorratsdatenspeicherung? Nicht schon wieder! Unterstützen Sie unsere Verfassungsbeschwerde: https://digitalcourage.de/weg-mit-vds

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FOSSA
by David VANTYGHEM 23 Aug '16

23 Aug '16

Hello, About https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/eu-fossa/news/ec-audit-apache-http-se… Why choosing KeePass and not KeePassX ? KeePass is using the .NET Framework. If you find security holes in .NET, it will be impossible to remove them. KeePass is not really multi-platform. KeePassX is really multi-Plateform and proprietary software independant. https://www.keepassx.org -- David VANTYGHEM Mél. : david.vantyghem(a)free.fr diaspora* : https://framasphere.org/u/albator57 .--. |o_o | ||_/ | // \\ Envoyé avec GNU/Linux (| |) / \_ _/ \ \___)=(___/

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When will you leave after the summit?
by Florian Snow 22 Aug '16

22 Aug '16

Hi everyone, I am currently in the process of doing the final scheduling for my trip to Berlin and since the talks are over shortly after 3 pm on Sunday, I was wondering whether it still made sense to stay until Monday. So I guess the question is what are you going to do? If there is a sufficient number of people who are staying until Monday, I am sure there will be activities we can do together on Sunday night. So for the sake of scheduling, please let me know on this list. :-) Happy hacking! Florian

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[summit] Feel like giving a Lightning talk?
by Erik Albers 22 Aug '16

22 Aug '16

Hi all, For those of you, coming to the FSFE summit: The QtCon has allocated half an hour for miscellaneous kinds of lightning talks. If you think about doing a lightning talk, read the details here: -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: Lightning talks Datum: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 13:53:26 +0200 Von: Jesper K. Pedersen <jesper.pedersen(a)kdab.com> Greetings, As you might already have heard, at this years QtCon, there will be one block allocated where all rooms will be filled with lightning talks. This is Friday from 17:30 to 18:30. A lightning talk is a 10 minutes pitch of an idea, a show off of a piece of software you have written, or a technique you have found solves a specific problem for you, a project you are planning or you just realised - anything really (as long as it is not just a commercial product sales pitch). We still have some slots available, which are given to those who requests them first. Therefore, please do consider offering a lightning talk by sending an email to Jesper.Pedersen(a)kdab.com with subject "Lightning talk proposal". The email should contain a title of your talk plus one paragraph of text describing it. Cheers Jesper. -- Jesper K. Pedersen | jesper.pedersen(a)kdab.com Training Director and Senior Software Engineer Klarälvdalens Datakonsult AB, a KDAB Group company Tel. Direct: +45 5146 8464, Sweden (HQ) +46-563-540090 KDAB - Qt, C++ and OpenGL Experts

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Migrated mailing list
by Jonas Oberg 22 Aug '16

22 Aug '16

Dear team, this mailing list has just been migrated to a new server, following the information sent around previously. Do note that we automatically move all the settings, content and other information to the new list server. We also forward all mails that go to the old address, to the new address. This means you should hopefully not have noticed that the list moved. But it's a good habit to update the address used, especially if you have mail filters on your side which rely on the mailing list having a specific address -- or a specific List-ID (which has changed!). Here are other relevant changes: . The mailing list address is now discussion(a)lists.fsfe.org . The web interface for this list is available here: https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion . For the list administrators, the list admin interface is here: https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/admin/discussion/ I hope you have not noticed the move and that the discussions on the list will continue as before, but now on our new mailing list server. Sincerely, -- Jonas Öberg, Executive Director Free Software Foundation Europe | jonas(a)fsfe.org Your donation enables our work (fsfe.org/donate)

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Contributing for FLOSS projects/ communities
by Katja Gucek 19 Aug '16

19 Aug '16

Hi everybody, this is probably the first time I am posting on this list. I am just conducting a thesis research at Faculty of Social Sciences, Cultural Studies Department - University of Ljubljana, Slovenia, Europe. I am interested in incentives for voluntary participation in projects or communities developing or supporting Free/ Libre or Open-Source software (FLOSS) products or movement – whether it is a software, web, hardware, hacker space, movement supporting or promoting free and open philosophy or events regarding this topic. I'd like to ask for help with my survey - filling out this 5-10 minutes long questionnaire: https://www.1ka.si/a/102463 Thank you so much in advance. Your help and answers are very valuable. If this mail is inappropriate for this list, I deeply apologize. Best regards, Katja Guček Ljubljana, Slovenija (Europe) -- http://twitter.com/KatjaG http://www.facebook.com/katjag http://www.linkedin.com/in/katjagucek

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