* MJ Ray wrote, On 02/11/07 14:22: 
simo <simo.sorce@xsec.it> wrote:
  
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 11:40 +0100, Reinhard Mueller wrote:
    
Yes, he is. And more than that, he is one of the modern spam bots that
is able to subscribe to mailman mailing lists. :-(

If this problem gets worse, we have to think about a solution.
      
Captcha on subscribe, it's becoming necessary :(
    

Please do *NOT* put a bloody eyetest on this mailing list.  That will
almost certainly lock out people like me, while allowing in some
robots with visual-recognition code.  If you want to test spamminess,
then eyesight and hearing have little to do with that.  If anything,
I suspect spammers probably average better on eyesight and hearing
tests than the general population these days ;-) I have met one user
who read by touch, with solenoids pushing on fingers and I think I've
seen braille strip output devices in the past - why should we lock
such people out or give them second-class service unnecessarily?
Not a lot of people think about that; being focussed on how to deny access rather than grant it (which is often never thought about).
I believe the best test would be to put new members on moderation-hold
until they make some sensible posts.  (Ultimately, who cares if it's a
bot if it's posting relevant stuff? ;-> )  Shouldn't the FSFE be
following best practice instead of false sense of security?
http://www.w3.org/TR/turingtest#security
Makes sense to me.

Many forum-ish things have level of member ship.

If any level member can grant kudos to a lowlier member, such as by approving posts (until they are high enough to be self approved) then we may have a low-effort system.

Sam