On 06/02/18 20:37, Jonas Oberg wrote:
Hi Werner,
Right feedback seems to be welcome, but discussion is done behind closed doors. With today's words of a board member to the members only list:
To be clear, these words are mine:
Regardless of what we individually think about our structure (and you know I have strong opinions on this too), let's keep that discussion *here*, between the members. No change will come from discussions about this elsewhere. Any change comes from us, here.
That was written for the voting members of the FSFE, to convey to them that they are indeed responsible for changing the FSFE. And that it doesn't matter what is discussed on other mailing lists: here, fsfe-de, or elsewhere. For any change to happen, the voting members of the FSFE need to act and be convinced change is needed, and agree on the direction.
This was not intended to limit discussion. It was an attempt to convey to the voting members that they, and no one else, has the responbility for actually making changes to our structure, and that they should take that responsibility seriously. Changes which, I believe, both you and I would support, Werner.
This is why it is so important for us to determine if anybody else may either have achieved the status of being a member by completing the "Join the FSFE" form or if anybody feels that they or somebody in their team or local group should be accepted as a GA member by following the process described here:
https://wiki.fsfe.org/Teams/GA
Anybody who has contributed significant time to FSFE as a volunteer should read that page carefully and decide if they want to have a vote on these changes.
As I am not an ordinary member of the GA, rather, I am a fellowship representative, I try to consider the views of all fellows, supporters and volunteers and not just my own views when communicating with the GA. I have written on the GA list that I believe these changes require wider discussion, which may include mailing list discussion, surveys and potentially another real-world meeting like the summit we had in 2016 or the community gathering. Even if other members of the community are not able to vote on FSFE's constitution, I will try to listen to what people say in all these forums and bring that to the GA for you.
I would also ask people not to judge Jonas' comments too harshly, it is not uncommon for people to write things quickly on the GA list without thinking of all the ways they could be interpreted. Nonetheless, whichever way you interpret his comment, it is clear that people need to consider who else may have earned the right to have a voice and a vote.
Regards,
Daniel