Paul,
The husting (singular) was the occasion for an interesting discussion with candidates. But, as others have indicated, we don't need a special occasion to upload IRC logs to the wiki. Alot of interesting ideas are coming up in this email thread. I invite all to introduce on #fsfe on freenode to continue the discussion. I'm logged in as FreeSoftwareJoe and can up-date my homepage ( https://wiki.fsfe.org/Activities/Election/JoeAwni ) with quotes. A way to organise the threads...will likely present itself as the discussion starts to require it...
-Joe
On 11 April 2017 at 05:39, Daniel Pocock daniel@pocock.pro wrote:
On 10/04/17 19:20, Albert Dengg wrote:
hi, On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 06:41:52PM +0200, Paul Boddie wrote: ...
I understand that things do get mixed up, but I think it was pretty unfortunate that an event was announced and then occurred at another time. I found out about it on the wiki, obviously, whose recent changes page I tend to follow. (I accept that this makes me somewhat unusual, but it is a habit that has proved useful when moderating and administering wiki sites.)
i used to read the changelog of _all_ wiki pages for quite some time.
Now, I did have a brief conversation with Jonas about this on IRC, and it is possible that I didn't get an e-mail announcing the meeting - my Fellowship renewal was occurring during this period, so I might not have been on the right list at that point
- but what worries me is that there doesn't seem to be much said
in public about the topic at all. I could be as unkind as to say that an election with little discussion around it probably isn't being taken very seriously by very many people.
i obviously can't speak for other people, personally i do think that they are importand, though i cannot say what went wrong here, as i was not involved the organization of the election.
I noticed there were long lead times between the call for nominations, the closing of nominations and the start of voting.
If the time between the close of nominations (10 February) and start of voting (10 April) is not really being used for campaigning then maybe those dates should be closer together.
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i would recommend to ask them directly to take part in that, either to write more in the wiki or take part in i a discussion here as i'm not shure if they are subscribed to this list.
I think that this is perhaps another problem. No-one wants to spend all their time on the Internet discussing and arguing about things, but if people aren't on this list or on some other list where they can engage with the electorate, then what kind of representation do we have?
well, at least two of the candidates are definitly here...however since not everybody knows all maillinglist, i just wanted to point it out
For discussions (mailing list, board meeting, etc) to lead to action it is really useful for people to propose a course of action. E.g. if somebody says "FSFE should spend $10,000 on foo", that provides a specific action that people can discuss.
I've seen many discussions in different communities where no specific action is proposed or where there is no sign of a volunteer who is willing to undertake the proposed effort.
Regards,
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