"Alfred M. Szmidt" ams@gnu.org wrote:
If Debian has been fixing these errors, please explain why it is hosting non-free software,
'We acknowledge that some of our users require the use of works that do not conform to the Debian Free Software Guidelines. We have created "contrib" and "non-free" areas in our archive for these works. The packages in these areas are not part of the Debian system, although they have been configured for use with Debian.' -- http://www.fr.debian.org/social_contract
and still adding more non-free software there. Most notably, Sun Java.
I don't understand why some debian delegates added Sun Java, especially under those nasty terms.
This is obviously not an error, since it is perfectly a valid practise within Debian and is condoned by the Debian project.
The addition of Sun Java to Debian has not been condoned. Another wild accusation without evidence.
So, roughly equivalent to Debian's main archive. There are other "Fedora foo" archives containing other things.
Can you point me to these `other archives'?
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Projects/WeeklyReports/ lists some.
Oh please, you quote a wiki. Then I guess that if someone makes a link to ftp.microsoft.com when posting to a GNU list then GNU is hosting non-free software. Stop this absurdities.
I expect GNU does host non-free software somewhere, but I don't know whether ftp.microsoft.com runs GNU, so I don't see the relevance of that.
Atleast have the decency to quote offical material.
The wiki seems to be official material. I'm not exactly happy with that, so I quoted another, which was deleted unmarked. It's much more substantial than anything quoted to support the allegations against debian.
Of course debian supports non-free software.
And recommend its usage. We agree. Great.
No, debian does not recommend or depend on non-free software. (debian-policy s2.2.1, yet again)
GNU supports non-free software, although I expect the GNU project tells you not to use it. Can a product condone something?
You make silly claims without fact again and again, it is boring. Shove proof. Where does GNU support non-free software?
Anywhere where non-free software for GNU is run. Odd question.
equally bad in this regard, since both contain non-free software.
Sorry, that's incorrect. Get yourself a CD of the official release and try to find any.
What the CD's contain isn't relevant. It is the action of Debian that matters.
The CDs are debian. They are the ultimate action of the debian project.
I'd go on an equal rampage if the FSF started doing the same.
I somewhat doubt it, but I hope we never find out.