This is shameful! There ist no reason to not let everyone become a member. I have read today. I have read a lot, and it is clear the FSF should be ashamed of themselves. I am glad there are people like you Daniel who can change this! Just read:
https://www.fsf.org/associate/
It's all about giving money to the FSF. Never once are listed any benefits of being able to vote!
Shameful.
Cornelia
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: "joining" the FSFE Local Time: October 2, 2017 8:13 AM UTC Time: October 2, 2017 8:13 AM From: daniel@pocock.pro To: FSFE Discussion discussion@fsfeurope.org
Hi all,
Whenever I"m discussing FSFE with people at an event, somebody inevitably asks me about the joining process or what it means to be an FSFE member.
There has actually been some ambiguity about this. The main page of the web site has a "Join the FSFE" button, it is very prominent.
It links to a page where "join" is in the URL:
https://fsfe.org/fellowship/ams/join.php?ams=join
and the title says "Join the FSFE"
Anybody who has ever joined any other organization before is going to assume that after following these links and completing the form they are an equal member of the organization.
In practice, the organization has different groups:
- the GA members (the first group) being the only members of the legal
body, the "Join" page doesn"t give any instructions for people to pursue this type of membership nor does it tell people that they are not becoming voting members
- The "Join" links on the web site should probably say "Become a donor"
because that is what they are about, asking people to become regular donors (this is the second group)
- people can also be a volunteer (the third group), without being either
a legal (voting) member or a donor, the join link doesn"t actually give people any information about how to do this
I"ve tried to raise this in the GA a few times but the "Join the FSFE" button remains prominent on the web site and I feel this undermines the organization in the eyes of the wider community and also challenges the relationship between the organization and those people who have already engaged with us.
I proposed a motion for the GA meeting to finally resolve this, give us clarity in the future and hopefully putting the issue behind us in a way that will gain respect and confidence from anybody who "joined" and subsequently became disillusioned about it.
Would anybody like to comment on this topic, share their experience with the joining process or comment on your impression of the buttons and text currently in use?
Proposed motion: The GA recognizes that the widespread use of the word "Join" on the FSFE web site may have caused many fellows and volunteers to believe their payment made them a member of the incorporated association. The GA resolves that a notice should be published on the web site clarifying the situation, the notice should be sent to everybody who completed the form to "Join the FSFE" and any future communication, through the web site or other marketing materials should make it unambiguous whether people are being solicited to join the incorporated association, volunteer their time or become a financial supporter and also making them aware of the alternative roles they can have in the organization.
Regards,
Daniel
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