Hello,
I have strange problem with Wikipedia: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Monument_t...
I have made a photo shot of the statue installed in the public place in Helsinki, Finland and uploaded it to Wikipedia. But I was told that this statue is copyrighted (?) and there was a link to the list of more copyrighted objects: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luettelo_Helsingin_patsaista_ja_muistomerkeist...
Is it a mistake or are the pieces of arts installed in Helsinki really copyrighted and it's not legal to make their photos and share them? Sounds really weird for me.
I really want to read more about the case in Swedish or English.
Thanks in advance!
On Sunday 6. September 2015 00.27.54 Vitaly Repin wrote:
Hello,
I have strange problem with Wikipedia: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Monument_ to_Tapio_Rautavaara_in_%C3%85ggelby_%28Oulunkyl%C3%A4%29.jpg#File:Monument_ to_Tapio_Rautavaara_in_.C3.85ggelby_.28Oulunkyl.C3.A4.29.jpg
I have made a photo shot of the statue installed in the public place in Helsinki, Finland and uploaded it to Wikipedia. But I was told that this statue is copyrighted (?) and there was a link to the list of more copyrighted objects: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luettelo_Helsingin_patsaista_ja_muistomerkeis t%C3%A4
I guess "Wiki Loves Monuments" isn't the whole truth after all. ;-)
Is it a mistake or are the pieces of arts installed in Helsinki really copyrighted and it's not legal to make their photos and share them? Sounds really weird for me.
I really want to read more about the case in Swedish or English.
This came up recently in the context of European harmonisation, and Wikipedia provides more information on the following page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_panorama
Of course, it is absurd that someone can not merely own the design of a piece of art - which is not in itself a troublesome thing - but can also exert control over representations and reinterpretations of that art, especially when the art in question has been placed in a public location and has often been paid for by the public. And architectural works being treated as copyrighted works - not even as trademarks - are obviously problematic given that most of them are unlikely to be hidden from casual public viewing.
Paul
Hi,
Am 2015-09-06 um 00:55 schrieb Paul Boddie:
This came up recently in the context of European harmonisation, and Wikipedia provides more information on the following page:
... and even more information here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama#Finland
In short: the creator of a piece of art generally holds copyright (actually more like "author's right") on the work, and distribution of any reproduction of the work (like a photograph of it) requires his/her consent. In many countries, there is an exception for works in public places, which is called "Freedom of Panorama".
In Finland, the exception only covers a) buildings and b) other works only for non-commercial purposes.
Since Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons explicity require permission to use for commercial uses, too, b) can't be applied for Commons.
I guess we all consider this a rather stupid rule, however there are coutries where it's far worse, for example in France.
Thanks, Reinhard