Dear friends,
the same i got in the fsf-de-maillist with the same IP adress 91.64.208.89 (Vodafone '91.64.0.0 - 91.64.255.255'). But in this time, i live in Asuncion in Paraguay and here in the hostal they have a Tigo Paraguay account. In the email header, you can see the IP space.
I am shure it has to do with the fsfellowship.eu-maillist from Daniel Pocock. I don't know, who act on this criminal way.
many greetings, willi Asuncion, Paraguay
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On 06/05/2019 07:00, willi uebelherr wrote:
Dear friends,
the same i got in the fsf-de-maillist with the same IP adress 91.64.208.89 (Vodafone '91.64.0.0 - 91.64.255.255'). But in this time, i live in Asuncion in Paraguay and here in the hostal they have a Tigo Paraguay account. In the email header, you can see the IP space.
I am shure it has to do with the fsfellowship.eu-maillist from Daniel Pocock. I don't know, who act on this criminal way.
I am sure anybody using that ISP in Germany can open this web page:
https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/options/discussion
cut and paste willi.uebelherr@riseup.net into the form
and click "unsubscribe" and you will get another email too.
So what you write appears to be rather defamatory and offensive but also a bit ridiculous. Just the type of thing that other people from FSFE have been doing with private gossip emails.
Naturally, lists.fsfe.org allows offensive messages like yours to get through the censorship regime but then they will probably block replies like mine, hence the reason we have a new home for the fellowship list at https://fsfellowship.eu
Anybody who wants to unsubscribe willi before he sends more defamation can click the confirmation link he willingly shared with us:
https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/confirm/discussion/adf393441b8e1196aa9cc3ac5a...
Le 06/05/2019 à 12:50, Daniel Pocock a écrit :
So what you write appears to be rather defamatory and offensive but also a bit ridiculous. Just the type of thing that other people from FSFE have been doing with private gossip emails.
Naturally, lists.fsfe.org allows offensive messages like yours to get through the censorship regime but then they will probably block replies like mine, hence the reason we have a new home for the fellowship list at https://fsfellowship.eu
Anybody who wants to unsubscribe willi before he sends more defamation can click the confirmation link he willingly shared with us:
Hi Daniel, please stop all of this. I didn't know who was right or wrong until last week, now, thanks to your childish behavior, I know.
On 06/05/2019 13:48, Stephane Ascoet wrote:
Le 06/05/2019 à 12:50, Daniel Pocock a écrit :
So what you write appears to be rather defamatory and offensive but also a bit ridiculous. Just the type of thing that other people from FSFE have been doing with private gossip emails.
Naturally, lists.fsfe.org allows offensive messages like yours to get through the censorship regime but then they will probably block replies like mine, hence the reason we have a new home for the fellowship list at https://fsfellowship.eu
Anybody who wants to unsubscribe willi before he sends more defamation can click the confirmation link he willingly shared with us:
Hi Daniel, please stop all of this. I didn't know who was right or wrong until last week, now, thanks to your childish behavior, I know.
Reality check: I did stop, I resigned from FSFE in September last year.
Other people kept this going in various ways. Another derivative of this mess even evolved at Christmas.
It is always the same pattern too: they spread gossip in private while pretending to be victims in public
Just out of interest, why does one person have to be right and the other person wrong? Many real world situations are far more complicated than that.
Calling out censorship, smear campaigns and other forms of oppression is hardly childish, it is the duty of responsible citizens.
Regards,
Daniel
Dear Daniel,
thank you for the indirect distribution of my email. But, as a moderator of this list, you block my email. Why?
You wrote: "So what you write appears to be rather defamatory and offensive but also a bit ridiculous."
Can you explain that? Tell me/us, what you think?
If a list don't use and check the IP address, then it will be a little bit crazy. But this is not a technical question, it is more a philosophical question.
I ask me, why you attack me and don't reflect the processings, what are going on? Or you think, my english is too bad and therefore this person is not worth treating seriously?
I know, in the FSF environment we have a big confusion about, what is our real task for free software. Many confuse it with a new form of business. The space of truly creative developers is not congruent with the space that accumulates around free software.
And, in this space, what function does FsFellowship have? I don't know.
But what I know for sure is the importance of free technology for our future.
Many thanks to Stephane Ascoet.
many greetings, willi Asuncion, Paraguay
Am 6/5/2019 um 06:50 schrieb Daniel Pocock:
On 06/05/2019 07:00, willi uebelherr wrote:
Dear friends,
the same i got in the fsf-de-maillist with the same IP adress 91.64.208.89 (Vodafone '91.64.0.0 - 91.64.255.255'). But in this time, i live in Asuncion in Paraguay and here in the hostal they have a Tigo Paraguay account. In the email header, you can see the IP space.
I am shure it has to do with the fsfellowship.eu-maillist from Daniel Pocock. I don't know, who act on this criminal way.
I am sure anybody using that ISP in Germany can open this web page:
https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/options/discussion
cut and paste willi.uebelherr@riseup.net into the form
and click "unsubscribe" and you will get another email too.
So what you write appears to be rather defamatory and offensive but also a bit ridiculous. Just the type of thing that other people from FSFE have been doing with private gossip emails.
Naturally, lists.fsfe.org allows offensive messages like yours to get through the censorship regime but then they will probably block replies like mine, hence the reason we have a new home for the fellowship list at https://fsfellowship.eu
Anybody who wants to unsubscribe willi before he sends more defamation can click the confirmation link he willingly shared with us:
https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/confirm/discussion/adf393441b8e1196aa9cc3ac5a...
-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: external request to leave the Discussion mailing list Datum: Mon, 6 May 2019 13:48:47 +0200 Von: Stephane Ascoet stephane.ascoet@univ-paris1.fr Organisation: Universite Pantheon-Sorbonne An: Daniel Pocock daniel@pocock.pro, willi uebelherr willi.uebelherr@riseup.net, FSFeu discuss discussion@lists.fsfe.org, fsfeu owner discussion-owner@lists.fsfe.org
Le 06/05/2019 à 12:50, Daniel Pocock a écrit :
So what you write appears to be rather defamatory and offensive but also a bit ridiculous. Just the type of thing that other people from FSFE have been doing with private gossip emails.
Naturally, lists.fsfe.org allows offensive messages like yours to get through the censorship regime but then they will probably block replies like mine, hence the reason we have a new home for the fellowship list at https://fsfellowship.eu
Anybody who wants to unsubscribe willi before he sends more defamation can click the confirmation link he willingly shared with us:
Hi Daniel, please stop all of this. I didn't know who was right or wrong until last week, now, thanks to your childish behavior, I know.