Hi,
the country teams are pillars of FSFE's success. They are also the
parts of our organisation that are best placed to take action for
Free Software in their respective countries.
The European core should support the country teams and help them
to become active, especially where public actions are concerned.
The core also functions as a place where the different country
team coordinators can exchange their experiences.
In order for the country teams to become active, they need to know
the situation they're facing in their country. For this reason,
Christian, Matthias and I have drawn up a catalogue of questions.
As mentioned in a separate mail, these questions should
+ give the country team a better overview of the situation in
their own country
+ serve to gather information on the situation of Free
Software in different European countries
+ allow the country teams to develop and plan actions together
with the core
+ allow the core to understand each country better and help
the country teams take action.
The Finnish team has already given the catalogue a spin, and come
up with some very interesting answers -- I'll forward the
questions separately, to keep the discussion structured.
Please find the current catalogue of questions below for
discussion. Please add/comment/review/substract as you see fit.
Best regards,
Karsten
===
• What are the main Free Software Organizations in your country right
now? Please also list the biggest GNU/Linux User Groups or Associations (if
they exist).
• What are the current issues in Free Software in your country? Are
there any public debates ongoing about (for example) government
procurement or similar things?
• Are there regulations in your country regarding the procurement of
software for government/ administration? Do they include Free Software
options?
• Is it usual practice in your country to sell Windows bundled with new
computers? If so, what does usually happen when you ask the vendor to
sell you the computer without a bundled license?
• Does your country have a government sponsored consumer advocacy group?
• What are the main conferences/ trade fairs/ events that IT people in
your country attend? What is their focus and when are they usually held?
• What is the name of the biggest FOSS oriented service companies in
your country (i.e. companies that make money installing, customizing,
training people in the use of FOSS)?
• Is there a movement to get educational institutions to start teaching
Alternative Software aside from Microsoft?
• Are there government sponsored GNU/Linux distributions available? If
so, what is their focus (education, security, privacy, ...)?
• Does you government support electronic transmission of tax information
and -filings? If so, does it provide software for the taxpayer to use?
Is this software Free Software? Is it available for non-Microsoft
Operating Systems?
• Does your legal system accept software patents? Is there a discussion
around this topic?
• What are your personal goals for the new chapter in your country?
Please list them as 1, 3, 5 year goals.
• Are there any statistics available for your country as far as
"Computer Literacy" goes?
• Does your country support the deduction of donations to charitable
organizations from ones taxable income?
• Whats the most popular Linux distribution in your country?
• Does the current ruling party in your country address the question of
Free Software in their program / strategy?
• Is there "Software Education" taught in schools in your country? If
so, at which age do children start to learn to use software?
• Whats the biggest IT magazine in your country? How much of this
magazine is dedicated to Free Software?
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Karsten Gerloff [ ] <gerloff(a)fsfeurope.org>
Free Software Foundation Europe [ ][ ][ ] [http://fsfe.org]
President | | +49 176 9690 4298
Your donation powers our work! [http://fsfe.org/donate/]
Free Software Foundation Europe e.V. is a German Verein registered
at the Registergericht Hamburg (VR 17030).
Soittelin tänään tuonne PRH:lle ja selvittelin vähän voiko säätiölle tai
yhdistykselle rekisteröidä sivuliikettä kuten yritykselle voi.
Lakimiehen vastaus oli että ei voi. Sen sijaan Y-tunnuksen voi kyllä
ilmeisesti hankkia verottajalta ilman mitään juridista henkilöä
Suomessa, eli FSFE e.V.:lle voisi hankea suomalaisen Y-tunnuksen.
Sen jälkeen olisi helpompi hankkia esim. pankkitili tai postilokero, jos
sellaiselle olisi tarvetta. Keskustellaan tarpeesta lisää viikonloppuna.
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Otto Kekäläinen [] otto(a)fsfe.org
Finnish Team Coordinator [][][] GPG/PGP 0xB7F7E4E1
Free Software Foundation Europe || +358 44 566 2204
http://www.fsfe.org/ finland(a)fsfe.org
Terve,
Löysin puhelimessa mainitsemasi Niinistön blogiviestin aiheesta
(http://www.vihreat.fi/node/4600). Mukavaa että näinkin
teknispoliittinen aihe jaksaa kiinnostaa vihreitä laajemminkin :)
Alla tämänhetkinen meidän (FSFE) puheenjohtajamme tieto
päätöksenteosta.
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Lähettäjä: Karsten Gerloff <gerloff(a)fsfeurope.org>
Reply-to: Karsten Gerloff <gerloff(a)fsfeurope.org>
Vastaanottaja: Otto Kekäläinen <otto(a)fsfe.org>
It looks like Garcia Moran, Director General of Informatics at the
EC, will hold a vote among member state representatives on this
text on Thursday.
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Olen myös jäsenenä FFII:ssä, jolla on aiheen seuranta etusivullaan http://www.ffii.org/
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Otto Kekäläinen [] otto(a)fsfe.org
Finnish Team Coordinator [][][] GPG/PGP 0xB7F7E4E1
Free Software Foundation Europe || +358 44 566 2204
http://www.fsfe.org/ finland(a)fsfe.org
Hi,
you may have seen the discussion about the new version of the
European Interoperability Framework. A summary of the issue is here
http://blogs.fsfe.org/gerloff/?p=285
together with a letter that FSFE has sent to eGovernment officials
across Europe last week.
The old version of the document uses a pretty good definition of
Open Standards which has been referenced a lot, and recommends
Free Software for the public sector.
The new version has no definition of open standards, and mentions Free
Software ("open source", actually) only in one footnote.
Instead, it has the idiotic idea of an "openness continuum" which
includes proprietary software. It also says that interoperability
can be achieved if everyone uses the same proprietary system. Both
ideas are both stupid and toxic. Glyn Moody has a good article
here:
http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=2620&blogi…
It appears that the European Commission will vote on this document
on Thursday this week. Finland is one of the countries that might
possibly be convinced to vote "no".
It would be great if as FSFE's Finnish team, you could do the
following:
- translate the letter under my blog post into Finnish. If
this takes too long, just send it in English if you
think that's acceptable.
- send it (or a text along those lines) to the person(s)
who are responsible for eGovernment in the Finnish
Government. This can also be the government's CIO.
Ideally, call that person afterwards and repeat the main
points of the letter.
Be extremely polite and reasonable. Point out that
Finland must vote no in order to keep the situation on
interoperability in the European public sector from
getting worse than it already is.
Other countries likely to vote "no" include Belgium and
the Netherlands, Sweden and Spain, and one more (don't
know which).
If you have any questions, contact me. It would be great if you
could help us to stop this effort to hollow out European
interoperability.
Best regards,
Karsten
--
Karsten Gerloff [ ] <gerloff(a)fsfeurope.org>
Free Software Foundation Europe [ ][ ][ ] [http://fsfe.org]
President | | +49 176 9690 4298
Your donation powers our work! [http://fsfe.org/donate/]
Free Software Foundation Europe e.V. is a German Verein registered
at the Registergericht Hamburg (VR 17030).
Terve!
Voisit laittaa hakemuksen sisään että pääset ilmaiseksi jäseneksi:
http://fellowship.fsfe.org/grant.en.htmlhttp://www.fsfe.org/news/2009/news-20091109-01.en.html
Mainitse että ylläpidät listaa ja järjestelet Finhackiä. Pitäisi
riittää.. voit laittaa varmuuden vuoksi myös maininnan että minä
suosittelen.
ma, 2009-11-02 kello 15:44 +0200, Solarius kirjoitti:
> hei!
> Anteeksi myöhäinen vastaukseni.
>
> Olen kiinnostunut auttamaan, mutta tällä hetkellä ei ole varaa liittyä
> FSFE jäseneksi :(
>
> Mutta voin auttaa ylläpidollisissa tehtävissä!
>
> 2009/11/1 Otto Kekäläinen <otto(a)fsfe.org>:
> > Moro!
> >
> > Haluaisitko tulla mukaan Suomen FSFE-tiimiin minun, Timon ja Henri
> > Bergiuksen lisäksi?
> >
> >
> > Sinähän ylläpidät nykyisellään fsfe-fi-listaa.
> > Lisäksi voisit ottaa ylläpitoosi finland(a)fsfe.org-listan, joka on siis
> > tiimin yhteydenottolista/sisäinen keskustelulista. Sinusta olisi apua
> > siinä hommassa ja vastaavasti tiimiläisenä saisit helpommin tarvittaessa
> > tukea Finhackien järjestämisessä.
> >
> > Samalla pyytäisin sinua liittymään FSFE:n jäseneksi ("fellow") ja
> > luomaan itsellesi GPG-avaimet, jotta sinulle voi lähettää tarvittaessa
> > salattua sähköpostia.
> >
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Otto Kekäläinen [] otto(a)fsfe.org
Finnish Team Coordinator [][][] GPG/PGP 0xB7F7E4E1
Free Software Foundation Europe || +358 44 566 2204
http://www.fsfe.org/ finland(a)fsfe.org
(For this I also include our new Finnish team. Background: We had a
brainstorming about fundraising ideas for the ned of the year. Now we
want to see what we could realise.)
* Matthias Kirschner <mk(a)fsfe.org> [2009-11-05 10:34:23 +0100]:
> - Tell our fellows and advertise on our website that people can support
> FSFE by purchasing books through bookzilla.
I think we should definetly blog about that and advertise it in our
newsletter.
> - Tell our fellows and advertist on our website that people can also
> donate to us through purchasing at amazon through a referral program.
I think we should set up such a shop so people buying other stuff than
books can also support us through that (but make clear that we do not
encourage buying at amazon, but that when you already buy there you
should use our shop / or plugin).
> - postcards and give x of them to every fellow to send to their friends
> as invitations to the fellowship.
I think for a European wide things we have too less time. But I will
talk with Edgar who already sent some (german) drafts to germany@ if we
can finalise them and sent them to the German fellows at least (problem
is that the picture contains a German word in the picture itself). But
if someone can come up with a good design until end of next week we
might be able to do it European wide.
> - Have special "I supported FSFE for Christmas" T-Shirts that we source
> through someone like spreadshirts.de.
For that we need a design very fast. Someone willing to do that? And I
think we need a slogan which is a bit more "hackerish".
> - Auction off (on ebay or through our website) a dinner where FSFE staff
> is cooking for you.
I think that is possible and might also give us some good media coverage
as this is not done by many people. And it doesn't have to be a very
expenise dinner. We could do it in Berlin or dependin on the winner
somewhere else. And I think cooking is associated possitive.
> - Auction off (on ebay or through out website) donations to FSFE.
Might be difficult to explain that message to a wider audience.
> - Sell special Free Software Presents which include a CD with Free
> Software, the Free Software Book, and other goodies to be used as
> presents for people.
I think this is a good idea for the future in cooperation with other
organisations. But we have to less time to do that for this year.
> - Free Software Diet: You eat less over Christmas and donate the
> difference.
Still think this is a funny idea. Disadvantage: People don't like diets.
Possibility to combine it with the FSFE dinner to include it is a funny
note: "if you cannot win the dinner we suggest the FSFE diet "don't buy
too much food over new year and donate that money to FSFE".
> - Offer Fellows that for a donation of x EUR we write a Christmas
> postcard for them to their grandma / grandpa
We could offer that everybody. E.g. donate 120 EUR, we buy a Christmas
or new year card and sent it to a friend, family member, etc. . Could
also offer to write things like "XY asked us to sent you a Christmas
card. We wish you a merry Christmas and a happy new year. He also asked
us to explain to you what he is doing in his main job. Well he writes
software that everybody gives the freedom to... " (of course better).
Advantage: This might also give us good media coverage as it is a new
idea.
> - Fellows and FSFE donating IT support hours to elderly people in the
> cities where they live; i.e. we ask the larger groups and larger
> cities to go to an old-people home and help them with IT stuff. This
> could be nice in the press...
Good press coverage, but I believe it is difficult to implement until
Chirstmas.
> - Same as above, but go to boarding schools, or other social
> institutions
Same here.
> - We could also offer "rescue packages" which people can order. There
> are only a few leaflets and stuff in it. It is like the rescue
> packages for the banks
Perhaps too black humor? Else the idea of sending packages with an FSFE
t-shirt + some stickers, etc. as a Christmas special might be cool. What
do you think? Should we make special deals? Should we call them "rescue
packages" and announce them in the hacker community?
Rainer, Penny: What do you think?
> - dedicate one working day (or some working hours) to FSFE and donate
> the income. We'll publish your story of what you did that day and how
> it relates to FSFE, along with your picture (if you like).
I like that idea. Donate one working day. If we do not want to run that
on Christmas we could do that at another day. For example Docuemnt
Freedom Day or Software Freedom Day. Might also be good for the press.
> - auction off merchandise signed by FSFE staff
I think for that we are not well know enough. That would work with stuff
signed by Richard, but I have doubts about stuff signed by us.
> - auction off one day of FSFE staff person to visit you and do $whatever
> (talk about Free Software to you/your friends/teachers/colleagues)
That could also be realised in our time frame. Not much needed. Only
problem. If it is bought too cheap we have more travel costs than what
comes in.
> - Wikipedia-style fundraising progress bar on our website? Just
> temporary, until the end of the year? I've always found this a nice
> way to provide feedback to donors.
I think our web team could implement it (Reinhard please correct me).
Animates people who see it. Problem I see here: Wikipedia is visited by
_a lot_ of people. Our pages is not visited by that many people and we
want to reach more people than those who visit our website. I think our
fundraiser has to raise visibility from outside. So we have to combine
it with something.
> - pin up calendar
Oh yeah :) Good occation to wear my Fellowsip thong. But for taking
good pictures we are too late.
> - rms dartboards for sale
Although I think a lot of people might buy it I think we might get
problems with our sister organisation.
> - get christian a santa suit
And do what?
> - (girl scout) cookies
Could be an option that country teams bake cookies etc. and sell them.
But we need good events for that. Are there events before christmas
where that would be possible?
> - pay us not to sing the freedom song under your window at 3am
I am not sure about that. Perhaps too much of a blackmail character. Not
sure if it is strong enough as message on their own. One possibility
might be to include some ideas we had in the PR like "we also thought
about asking for donations so we do not sing songs under your window"
> - plussie plushies
Rainer? But for this year it is definetely too late I think.
Best wishes,
Matthias
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Hi all,
I'm currently drafting October newsletter, and since I intend to include an item
about the formation of the Finnish team, I would like to receive a small quote
that I can include in it.
Newsletter items are usually short and simple, so a 'couple of sentences'
statement from the team will be enough.
Perhaps: what is your main goal for the first months of activity, or how come
that you joined together and formed now the team...
This is a preliminary draft of the newsletter item. If anything should be
corrected, please just let me know. (BTW, I named Otto for the quote as he's
listed as coordinator, but if I should quote someone else it's not a problem)
| X. Announcing FSFE's new Finnish country team!
|
| We are pleased to announce the formation of a new country team working
| under the FSFE's umbrella: Otto Kekäläinen, Henri Bergius, and
| Timo Jyrinki are the members of FSFE's Finnish team and they will work
| respectively as team coordinator, deputy coordinator and
| Finnish translation coordinator. All of them will participate at the
| upcoming FSCONS where they will meet other FSFE team members and will
| discuss strategies for cooperation and for the Finnish team growth.
| About the team's [formation/goals], Otto says: "<QUOTE>"
|
| finland(a)fsfeurope.org
| http://www.fsfe.org/contact/local.en.html
Thank you
Giacomo
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ke, 2009-11-04 kello 20:10 +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors kirjoitti:
> Otto Kekäläinen <otto(a)fsfe.org> writes:
> > 15:stä jäsenstä asuu. Lindi voisi ehkä avustaa järjestelyissä?
>
> Joo toki. Onks tää finland@ nyt joku joka menee vain jäsenille ja tuo
> fsfe-fi kaikille halukkaille? Mietin siis lähinnä että minne
> esim. free thursday -tapahtuman tiedotusmaileja pitäisi lähettää.
Laita tiedotteet fsfe-fi-listalle. Se on kaikille avoin.
finland@ on vain tiimille, johon tällä hetkellä kuuluu minä, Timo
Jyrinki ja Henri Bergius. Toki yritetään rekrytä lisää aktiiveja heti
kun peruskuviot on selvillä :)
--
Otto Kekäläinen [] otto(a)fsfe.org
Finnish Team Coordinator [][][] GPG/PGP 0xB7F7E4E1
Free Software Foundation Europe || +358 44 566 2204
http://www.fsfe.org/ finland(a)fsfe.org
Unohdin alkuperäisestä viestistä oikean @fsfeurope.org-päätteen listan
nimessä..
----- Edelleenvälitetty viesti lähettäjältä otto(a)fsfe.org -----
Päiväys: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:30:39 +0200
Lähettäjä: Otto Kekäläinen <otto(a)fsfe.org>
Otsikko: FSFE:n Suomen tiimi perusteilla
Vastaanottaja: lindi(a)fsfe.org, willebra(a)fsfe.org
Kopio: finland(a)fsfe.org
Terve Marin ja Timo L!
Te olitte FSFE:n liittyessänne pyytäneet yhteydenottoa paikalliselta
koordinaattorilta. FSFE:n Suomen tiimi on vasta perusteilla ja minusta
on tulossa sen koordinaattori, joten ajattelin laittaa teille lyhyen
ilmoituksen tästä.
Juuri nyt ei ole suunnitteilla mitään FSFE-tapaamista, mutta sellaisen
voisi ehkä järjestää myöhemmin Helsingissä, jossa suurin osa Suomen
15:stä jäsenstä asuu. Lindi voisi ehkä avustaa järjestelyissä?
Tiedotan asiasta lisää myöhemmin fsfe-fi-sähköpostilistalla FSFCONSin
jälkeen, kun lopulliset yksityiskohdat ovat selvillä. Liittykää
sähköpostilistalle jos ette vielä ole:
https://mail.fsfeurope.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfe-fi
----- Välitetty viesti päättyy -----
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Finnish Team Coordinator [][][] GPG/PGP 0xB7F7E4E1
Free Software Foundation Europe || +358 44 566 2204
http://www.fsfe.org/ finland(a)fsfe.org