Hi all,
It made me really happy to see freedomvote.nl going live and I was thinking about the possibility to use the platform for the German Bundestagswahl as well.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_2017 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundestagswahl
Because this election is mainly party centric, we would probably need to refactor the code and support this kind of election type as a core functionality.
Also implementing the Mockups we got from Kenny (https://github.com/kennyzehn) would be awesome: https://github.com/freedomvote/freedomvote/issues/59
To make such a project a success, we need someone from Germany who can lead the whole thing and we also need devs who would help to refactor the code. Our team could help with this, but it has to be a joint effort. The promotion and the data collection part needs to happen by others (probably persons from Germany).
What is your opinion, could this be of interest?
All the best, Nicolas
Hi Nicolas,
Great timing, as the Dutch elections are finalizing today. If I understood correctly, Erik Albers was interested in running for the German elections. Or at least knew others who did. Around Fosdem I understood from Erik Albers that in the German system the voters have 2 votes: 1 for a party, 1 for a person. I didn't look into this in detail. How does that pan out in terms of UI?
I evaluated the UX of two prominent Dutch voting websites. Do you know how that relates to the German voting system? https://github.com/nicorikken/frontend/blob/9d5559f94702170baaf424778f6c3c8c... In that regard I think the mockups of the UI are awesome, I'm however not sure if the user experience of the voting itself is the best setup. As I observe that nearly all Dutch voting platforms have a different UX, and just this difference confuses people filling in the Freedomvote website.
Anyway, my mind is already turning to different projects, but nonetheless I'd like to contribute to a next iteration of Freedomvote. Let's keep this fire burning!
Kind regards, Nico Rikken
Hi Nicolas,
On 14.03.2017 13:21, Nicolas Christener wrote:
It made me really happy to see freedomvote.nl going live and I was thinking about the possibility to use the platform for the German Bundestagswahl as well.
yes, same here : )
To make such a project a success, we need someone from Germany who can lead the whole thing and we also need devs who would help to refactor the code. >
Our team could help with this, but it has to be a joint effort. The
promotion and the data collection part needs to happen by others (probably persons from Germany).
What is your opinion, could this be of interest?
Yes, it is. But it is not just in our interest. This year Wikimedia DE took the initiative and budget to bring together different NGOs in the field of "digital rights" and "freedom of $something" to develop a Free Software that is similar to freedomvote although more simple.
They got in contact with the guy who created the Kiez-o-Mat: http://www.bezirk-o-mat.de/bezirkomat/ as you can see, you can answer some questions for yourself and then you get matched with your political party. You can set up an account, however.
The FSFE aligned with Wikimedia and partners to form a campaign together that is supported by many NGOs in our field and gain from each one's fame and own social groups.
I lobbied for freedomvote as an alternative to use and even offered that the FSFE will help with the investment in freedomvote. But, in the end I was not able to convince them. I know that they already have experience with the guy behind, so I think there is also a personal connection involved in the decision.
I was really sad to see this and would have loved to further invest in freedomvote. But seeing this coalition already getting active, I absolutely see no point in coming up with a parallel development for this Bundestagswahl.
BUT: Next year are elections in Italy and we have an active group in Milano, that I think who could be interested in doing freedomvote as well. I propose to get in contact with them soon enough (which is also maybe around now) and run freedomvote for Italian elections?
Because this election is mainly party centric, we would probably need to refactor the code and support this kind of election type as a core functionality.
I think this would be in general useful. I am not sure, but I believe that most of the European elections are party-centric.
Thank you very much for developing freedomvote and to come up with the idea of using it for the Bundestagswahl.
Best regards, Erik
Hi Erik, *
On Mon, 2017-03-27 at 11:45 +0200, Erik Albers wrote: [...]
I was really sad to see this and would have loved to further invest in freedomvote. But seeing this coalition already getting active, I absolutely see no point in coming up with a parallel development for this Bundestagswahl.
Thank you for the update - I fully agree with you.
I only knew about the collaboration of the said parties regarding the election in North Rhine-Westphalia (or at least that's what I understood) but it's interesting to know, that this also spawns above Bundestagswahl.
BUT: Next year are elections in Italy and we have an active group in Milano, that I think who could be interested in doing freedomvote as well. I propose to get in contact with them soon enough (which is also maybe around now) and run freedomvote for Italian elections?
Sounds great! I'm all in :D
Could you reach out to the group in Milano and connect them with us?
Because this election is mainly party centric, we would probably need to refactor the code and support this kind of election type as a core functionality.
I think this would be in general useful. I am not sure, but I believe that most of the European elections are party-centric.
Thank you very much for developing freedomvote and to come up with the idea of using it for the Bundestagswahl.
You're very welcome! Thanks all of you for your work and contribution to Free Software!
All the best, Nicolas
Hi all,
On 27.03.2017 11:45, Erik Albers wrote:
To make such a project a success, we need someone from Germany who can lead the whole thing and we also need devs who would help to refactor the code. >
Our team could help with this, but it has to be a joint effort. The
promotion and the data collection part needs to happen by others (probably persons from Germany).
What is your opinion, could this be of interest?
Yes, it is. But it is not just in our interest. This year Wikimedia DE took the initiative and budget to bring together different NGOs in the field of "digital rights" and "freedom of $something" to develop a Free Software that is similar to freedomvote although more simple.
They got in contact with the guy who created the Kiez-o-Mat: http://www.bezirk-o-mat.de/bezirkomat/
and the final version for the Landtagswahl NRW has been published last week:
this is the smaller pilot version of the one we will use for the Bundestagswahl. I will be very happy for any comments and thoughts on the software, the content or whatever comes to your mind and could help improve the project.
Beste Grüße, Erik