I said I'd look into re-mastering one the the current live cd's at the meeting last night. I think the idea was to have a cd that could be handed out for people to try free software without any fear of damaging their pc. To this end it was preferential to remove or hide the install to hard disk option on many of the current live cds . Some points on this
* Has anyone done this already? i have seen the ilug's version[1] and will try to include their dial-up scripts.
* In re-mastering i was planning on using our logo and out gnu and harp, if Malcolm could supply the full resolution version of the image as discussed last night it would be helpful.
* Which live cd to base it off? Ciaran mentioned morphix because it could use gnome and was completely free[2], I'm working of the Gnome version of morphix which seems to be free apart from mplayer and it's codes. I have also seen comment that knoppix 3.3 removed non-free and now should also be completely free software. I downloaded the latest morphix and gave it a test, it failed to cope with dual-monitors, and have some confusing errors on a second pc i tried it with. Also it's application menu structure was very confusing with no sign of open office in the "office" section (it had a taskbar icon and an entry in the debian menu) apart from that it seemed to work well hand have a fair amount of space free on the cd, it also seemed to be easy to re-master. I'm currently downloading knoppix 3.3 to test it. Any comments welcome.
*There's space free on both the knoppix and morphix cd's, these could be used to store some informational material on the ifso and free software in general. Ciaran mentioned some stallman lectures, or possibly a copy of lessig's free culture (shoot me down on that if that's a bad idea). Any other suggestions?
*OT: Orbit discussion from meeting. Yes geosynchronous[3] orbits are in a belt around the equator at a height of 35,790km ... though there does not appear to be an "ideal" geostationary orbit, thrusters must be used. There are also things called elliptical geosynchronous orbits where the satellite does not orbit above the equator, in these cases the satellite does not stay completely fixed in the sky. Escape velocity[4] only applies to objects without propulsion.. so if you had enough fuel to keep slowly pushing you away from earth you would escape orbit. Escape velocity seems to be used in the popular media in two contexts, on correctly an one incorrectly. Incorrect usage is the velocity an object must be launched at to go into orbit and not simply crash back to earth. Correct usage is the the "initial speed (not a vector quantity) required to go from an initial point in a gravitational potential field to infinity with a residual velocity of zero, relative to the field."[4].
-David
[1] http://www.linux.ie/download/ilug_knoppix/ [2] http://www.morphix.org/modules/xoopsfaq/index.php?cat_id=1#q27 [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geosynchronous_orbit [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_velocity
On Wednesday, April 21, 2004 at 15:06 +0100, David Cathcart wrote:
- In re-mastering i was planning on using our logo and out gnu and harp,
if Malcolm could supply the full resolution version of the image as discussed last night it would be helpful.
OK, it's here: http://www.cs.tcd.ie/Glenn.Strong/tmp/Gnu.jpg
On Wednesday, April 21, 2004 at 18:51 +0100, Glenn Strong wrote:
On Wednesday, April 21, 2004 at 15:06 +0100, David Cathcart wrote:
- In re-mastering i was planning on using our logo and out gnu and harp,
if Malcolm could supply the full resolution version of the image as discussed last night it would be helpful.
OK, it's here: http://www.cs.tcd.ie/Glenn.Strong/tmp/Gnu.jpg
Malcolm now supplies me with an additional SVG version:
http://www.cs.tcd.ie/Glenn.Strong/tmp/Gnu.svg.gz
About 1/2 way through remastering, there's about 200mb free so i decided to put some free software for windows on the cd too, for those who are too timid to boot it or for those who can't boot it. Here's a list of programs i put on :
Audio: Zinf StationRipper Cdex Graphics: Gimp Internet: 7-zip FileZilla Gaim Httrack Mozilla 1.6 Psi Putty Real Vnc Office: Pdfcreator OpenOffice 1.1.1 Video: VirtualDub VideoLanClient
Anything that shouldn't be here or anything i've missed?
David C.
Firebird and Thunderbird? (I thought for a second they mightn't be there because of some licencing issue, but they use the same licence as Moz, don't they? Except for the graphics of course. *koff*)
adam
-----Original Message----- From: fsfe-ie-bounces@fsfeurope.org [mailto:fsfe-ie-bounces@fsfeurope.org]On Behalf Of David Cathcart Sent: 22 April 2004 17:50 To: fsfe-ie@fsfeurope.org Subject: Re: [Fsfe-ie] Live CD
About 1/2 way through remastering, there's about 200mb free so i decided to put some free software for windows on the cd too, for those who are too timid to boot it or for those who can't boot it. Here's a list of programs i put on :
Audio: Zinf StationRipper Cdex Graphics: Gimp Internet: 7-zip FileZilla Gaim Httrack Mozilla 1.6 Psi Putty Real Vnc Office: Pdfcreator OpenOffice 1.1.1 Video: VirtualDub VideoLanClient
Anything that shouldn't be here or anything i've missed?
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Internet: K-Meleon (GPL) version 0.8.2 but extremely stable http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net
(Mozilla is just too much for low-spec Windows users)
David Cathcart wrote:
About 1/2 way through remastering, there's about 200mb free so i decided to put some free software for windows on the cd too, for those who are too timid to boot it or for those who can't boot it. Here's a list of programs i put on :
I've finished remastering the the CD. Changes made to normal Morphix Gnome distribution:
*Changed logos *Changed around a few menu items to make things more user-friendly (i.e. put open off actually in the office section) *Remove or put large blatant warnings on things that write to user's hard-drive. *Replace Index.html with the one listed below. *Added some windows and mac os x free software *Added 3 recording from fsf.org/pholosophy/audio
- I didn't get round to adding any irish-specific programs, maybe next time.
Cd "cover" http://www.netsoc.ucd.ie/~cathcart/ifso/cd-cover-ifso-small.png http://www.netsoc.ucd.ie/~cathcart/ifso/cd-cover-ifso.png
new index.html http://www.netsoc.ucd.ie/~cathcart/ifso/ Any spellinakes/correction/changes let me know.
iso: http://www.netsoc.ucd.ie/~cathcart/ifso/ifso-morphix-final.iso currently uploading should take around 15 hours to upload should be done by about 6 pm on friday, all going to plan.
Cd cover is a4 paper folded around cd, one side is cover image other side is printout of index file.
How many do we need? I have some cheep blank cd's and a stack of paper, so i can do 20 or so and have them ready for friday afternoon.
David C.
Hi,
Cd "cover" http://www.netsoc.ucd.ie/~cathcart/ifso/cd-cover-ifso.png
new index.html http://www.netsoc.ucd.ie/~cathcart/ifso/
This all looks cool.
Any spellinakes/correction/changes let me know.
Not to nit-pick, but since you ask :-) I noticed a couple:
* Bootable Gnu/Linux system. Insert this CD into your CD-ROM drive GNU
and then reboot. The only requirement is that your computer is set to boot using the CD-ROM device. Data on your system is not touched, unless you specificly state it. This is based on Morphix specifically ^ | [ add "CD-ROM" here? ]
and is completly Free Software. Help using morphix. completely
* Free Software for Windows and Mac OS X. A collection of Free Software that can be installed on Windows or Mac OS X without the need to boot a GNU\Linux system. If you computer cannot boot the /
GNU/Linux system on this CD it should be able to run these programs.
* Audio recordings from the GNU Progect. A collection of speeches project
from Richard Stallman about Free software and related issues. These Software
recordings are in the patent-free Ogg Vorbis format and may be played with software provided on this cd. CD
Hope the above has come out alright and not been mangled by line-breaks anywhere.
Thanks,
Ben.
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 09:21:19AM +0100, Ben North wrote:
Not to nit-pick, but since you ask :-) I noticed a couple:
Fixed, thanks for corrections, stopped upload to webspace to remaster cd, will finish upload sometime over the weekend. Concentrating on burning now.
David C.
Hope the above has come out alright and not been mangled by line-breaks anywhere.
Thanks,
Ben.
Sorry for any trouble caused with not-fully uploaded cd. I'm uploading the rest now, if you do download it and it's less than 690 megs there's something wrong. Here's the md5 sum: ffd2a9eed363eab6c35142990e6bfc2c ifso-morphix-final-24-04-2004.iso (new version)
Just checking the derivatives guidelines for morphix: http://am.xs4all.nl/morphix/MDDLICENSE
They're not obligatory, but i've changed the image to incleude the liscence as a textfile, and will notify the morphix people about the existance of our version later tonight.
New version with liscence http://www.netsoc.ucd.ie/~cathcart/ifso/
Sorry for any confusion and mixup.
David
Fixed, thanks for corrections, stopped upload to webspace to remaster cd, will finish upload sometime over the weekend. Concentrating on burning now.
David C.