Apologies if you're already aware of these:
http://www.patents4innovation.org/ http://campaignforcreativity.org/camp4creativity/index.htm
Pretty funny, if they weren't a bit scary. The Irish partners of the Patents4Innovation campaign are listed as "ICT Ireland", which is an IBEC subgroup: http://www.ictireland.ie/
Ryan
Campaign for Creativity is run by Simon Gentry, a PR professional who works as a hired-gun outfit for corporate lobby groups (previously he successfully lobbied for the extremist "Life Patent" Directive which is causing all sorts of problems). C4C is a front for corporate interests masquerading as a grass-roots organisation.
I'm not sure about patents4innovation, but I suspect it is similar.
Ian.
On 3 Feb 2005, at 10:06, Ryan Meade wrote:
Apologies if you're already aware of these:
http://www.patents4innovation.org/ http://campaignforcreativity.org/camp4creativity/index.htm
Pretty funny, if they weren't a bit scary. The Irish partners of the Patents4Innovation campaign are listed as "ICT Ireland", which is an IBEC subgroup: http://www.ictireland.ie/
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On Thursday, February 3, 2005 at 10:37 +0000, Ian Clarke wrote:
Campaign for Creativity is run by Simon Gentry, a PR professional who works as a hired-gun outfit for corporate lobby groups (previously he successfully lobbied for the extremist "Life Patent" Directive which is causing all sorts of problems). C4C is a front for corporate interests masquerading as a grass-roots organisation.
I'm not sure about patents4innovation, but I suspect it is similar.
They look to be slightly more honest, in that their corporate interests are declared on the "about us" page:
About us This site is the product of collaborative efforts from a wide body of concerned actors in the European technology industry, members of EICTA - including:
Accenture, Adobe, Agilent, Alcatel, Apple, Bang&Olufsen, Blaupunkt, Bull, Canon, Corning, Dell, EADS, Epson, Ericsson, Fujitsu, Grundig, Hitachi, HP, IBM, Infineon, Intel, JVC, Kenwood, Konica-Minolta, Lexmark, LG Electronics, Loewe Opta, Lucent, Marconi, Microsoft, Motorola, NEC, NEC-Mitsubishi, Nokia, Nortel, Panasonic, Philips, Pioneer, Samsung, Sanyo, SAP, Sharp, Siemens, Sony, Symantec, Texas Instruments, Thales, Thomson, Toshiba.
Ian Clarke wrote:
Campaign for Creativity is run by Simon Gentry, a PR professional who works as a hired-gun outfit for corporate lobby groups (previously he successfully lobbied for the extremist "Life Patent" Directive which is causing all sorts of problems). C4C is a front for corporate interests masquerading as a grass-roots organisation.
There's more on Simon Gentry here, including a particularly tasty comment he made in a ZDnet talkback last month: http://kwiki.ffii.org/SimonGentryEn
I'm not sure about patents4innovation, but I suspect it is similar.
P4I was set up by EICTA. Sun and Cisco have already taken their names off the site, as have some national ICT associations.
The first draft of the site was largely written by Nokia's lead IP lobbyist.
The pro-swpat push in Brussels has been almost entirely led (in descending order of activity) by Nokia, Siemens, Ericsson, Philips and Alcatel, either in their own name, or working though these 'umbrella' front organisations.
Ian.
On 3 Feb 2005, at 10:06, Ryan Meade wrote:
Apologies if you're already aware of these:
http://www.patents4innovation.org/ http://campaignforcreativity.org/camp4creativity/index.htm
Pretty funny, if they weren't a bit scary. The Irish partners of the Patents4Innovation campaign are listed as "ICT Ireland", which is an IBEC subgroup: http://www.ictireland.ie/
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James Heald writes:
Ian Clarke wrote:
I'm not sure about patents4innovation, but I suspect it is similar.
P4I was set up by EICTA. Sun and Cisco have already taken their names off the site, as have some national ICT associations.
The first draft of the site was largely written by Nokia's lead IP lobbyist.
... with the help of some license infringement: http://kwiki.ffii.org/Eicta041202En .
Jokes about them being pro-patent because they can't comprehend the terms of copyright-based licenses are welcome ;)
- --j.
The pro-swpat push in Brussels has been almost entirely led (in descending order of activity) by Nokia, Siemens, Ericsson, Philips and Alcatel, either in their own name, or working though these 'umbrella' front organisations.
Ian.
On 3 Feb 2005, at 10:06, Ryan Meade wrote:
Apologies if you're already aware of these:
http://www.patents4innovation.org/ http://campaignforcreativity.org/camp4creativity/index.htm
Pretty funny, if they weren't a bit scary. The Irish partners of the Patents4Innovation campaign are listed as "ICT Ireland", which is an IBEC subgroup: http://www.ictireland.ie/
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On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 10:06 +0000, Ryan Meade wrote:
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lol...runs Apache on GNU/Linux and is pro-patent
On 03/02/05 10:46, Aidan Delaney wrote:
On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 10:06 +0000, Ryan Meade wrote:
Apologies if you're already aware of these:
lol...runs Apache on GNU/Linux and is pro-patent
Well, "Patents are already allowed for computer implemented inventions and over 30,000 such patents have been granted in Europe, and yet the OSS movement has still flourished in this environment."
http://www.patents4innovation.org/index.php/eng/patents_open_source/
David
It's nice to know that there are a total of 6 companies innovating in Ireland at the moment! (p4i's R&D map tells me so),
F
On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 10:06:56AM +0000, Ryan Meade wrote:
Apologies if you're already aware of these:
http://www.patents4innovation.org/ http://campaignforcreativity.org/camp4creativity/index.htm
Pretty funny, if they weren't a bit scary. The Irish partners of the Patents4Innovation campaign are listed as "ICT Ireland", which is an IBEC subgroup: http://www.ictireland.ie/
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I'm surprised MS isn't listed there -- they're usually the main one, of course, innovating in the fields of internationalization and tech support ;)
BTW do IBM even have any engineers in Dublin? they're listed there, but I can't recall any non-sales-related IBM office.
- --j.
Fergal Daly writes:
It's nice to know that there are a total of 6 companies innovating in Ireland at the moment! (p4i's R&D map tells me so),
F
On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 10:06:56AM +0000, Ryan Meade wrote:
Apologies if you're already aware of these:
http://www.patents4innovation.org/ http://campaignforcreativity.org/camp4creativity/index.htm
Pretty funny, if they weren't a bit scary. The Irish partners of the Patents4Innovation campaign are listed as "ICT Ireland", which is an IBEC subgroup: http://www.ictireland.ie/
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