Just got off the phone to NSAI. Ireland's vote was for approval. Worse, it now looks certain that MS's OOXML will get overall approval.
A running tally of votes is being kept on Andy Updegrove's blog: http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20080329071456...
The NSAI's vote in September was for disapproval, and their press release said that they would only change their vote:
"If the Technical Comments are satisfactorily resolved and incorporated into a new draft".
IFSO wrote to NSAI reminding them of this earlier this month: http://www.ifso.ie/documents/correspondence/20080311iso-ooxml2.pdf (Thanks to Ben North for getting that letter written and sent)
Given the mess that was the Ballot Resolution Meeting (BRM) in Geneva (where it was decided there was just no time to discuss the problems, so ISO just had a bulk vote and approved everything without review), I'm very surprised that anyone could conclude that Ireland's Technical Comments were resolved.
I put links to reports of the BRM in a blog entry: http://www.fsfe.org/de/fellows/ciaran/ciaran_s_free_software_notes/reading_t...
More news is appearing on: http://groklaw.net/ http://www.noooxml.org/
Allegations of vote irregularities among European national standards bodies are rife.
Hi,
Does anyone know what government department the NSAI belongs to? I know it's an independent body, but it gets its funding from somewhere.
Thanks,
Éibhear
Ciaran O'Riordan wrote:
Just got off the phone to NSAI. Ireland's vote was for approval. Worse, it now looks certain that MS's OOXML will get overall approval.
A running tally of votes is being kept on Andy Updegrove's blog: http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20080329071456...
The NSAI's vote in September was for disapproval, and their press release said that they would only change their vote:
"If the Technical Comments are satisfactorily resolved and incorporated into a new draft".
IFSO wrote to NSAI reminding them of this earlier this month: http://www.ifso.ie/documents/correspondence/20080311iso-ooxml2.pdf (Thanks to Ben North for getting that letter written and sent)
Given the mess that was the Ballot Resolution Meeting (BRM) in Geneva (where it was decided there was just no time to discuss the problems, so ISO just had a bulk vote and approved everything without review), I'm very surprised that anyone could conclude that Ireland's Technical Comments were resolved.
I put links to reports of the BRM in a blog entry: http://www.fsfe.org/de/fellows/ciaran/ciaran_s_free_software_notes/reading_t...
More news is appearing on: http://groklaw.net/ http://www.noooxml.org/
Allegations of vote irregularities among European national standards bodies are rife.
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Does anyone know what government department the NSAI belongs to? I know it's an independent body, but it gets its funding from somewhere.
Hi,
The NSAI has its own legislation (the National Standards Authority of Ireland Act 1996); the responsible minister (and the person who appoints the Board) is Enterprise, Trade & Employment (DETE).
For what it's worth, the NSAI is capable of being FOIed in its own right (not all public bodies are) which might be of some use. In addition, DETE has a desk that acts as the go-between for NSAI/Department relations (http://www.entemp.ie/enterprise/standards/work.htm) which can be a) contacted and b) FOIed.
Within the Estimates, it gets its own allocation (€8m last year!) in the list of DETE agencies (classed with bodies like Forfás, Enterprise Ireland etc).
Daithí
Enterprise, Trade and Employment it seems:
http://www.nsai.ie/uploads/file/nsaiact1996.pdf
Ryan
On 7 Apr 2008, at 13:47, Éibhear wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone know what government department the NSAI belongs to? I know it's an independent body, but it gets its funding from somewhere.
Thanks,
Éibhear
Ciaran O'Riordan wrote:
Just got off the phone to NSAI. Ireland's vote was for approval. Worse, it now looks certain that MS's OOXML will get overall approval.
A running tally of votes is being kept on Andy Updegrove's blog: http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php? story=20080329071456170
The NSAI's vote in September was for disapproval, and their press release said that they would only change their vote:
"If the Technical Comments are satisfactorily resolved and incorporated into a new draft".
IFSO wrote to NSAI reminding them of this earlier this month: http://www.ifso.ie/documents/correspondence/20080311iso-ooxml2.pdf (Thanks to Ben North for getting that letter written and sent)
Given the mess that was the Ballot Resolution Meeting (BRM) in Geneva (where it was decided there was just no time to discuss the problems, so ISO just had a bulk vote and approved everything without review), I'm very surprised that anyone could conclude that Ireland's Technical Comments were resolved.
I put links to reports of the BRM in a blog entry: http://www.fsfe.org/de/fellows/ciaran/ciaran_s_free_software_notes/ reading_the_recent_post_brm_ooxml_news
More news is appearing on: http://groklaw.net/ http://www.noooxml.org/
Allegations of vote irregularities among European national standards bodies are rife.
-- Ciarán O'Riordan (+32 477 36 44 19) \ Support Free Software and GNU/Linux http://ciaran.compsoc.com/ _________ \ Join FSFE's Fellowship: http://fsfe.org/fellows/ciaran/weblog \ http://www.fsfe.org _______________________________________________ fsfe-ie@fsfeurope.org mailing list List information: http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/fsfe-ie Public archive: https://mail.fsfeurope.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfe-ie
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