* MJ Ray wrote, On 02/11/07 14:22:
simo simo.sorce@xsec.it wrote:
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 11:40 +0100, Reinhard Mueller wrote:
Yes, he is. And more than that, he is one of the modern spam bots that is able to subscribe to mailman mailing lists. :-(
If this problem gets worse, we have to think about a solution.
Captcha on subscribe, it's becoming necessary :(
Please do *NOT* put a bloody eyetest on this mailing list. That will almost certainly lock out people like me, while allowing in some robots with visual-recognition code. If you want to test spamminess, then eyesight and hearing have little to do with that. If anything, I suspect spammers probably average better on eyesight and hearing tests than the general population these days ;-) I have met one user who read by touch, with solenoids pushing on fingers and I think I've seen braille strip output devices in the past - why should we lock such people out or give them second-class service unnecessarily?
Not a lot of people think about that; being focussed on how to deny access rather than grant it (which is often never thought about).
I believe the best test would be to put new members on moderation-hold until they make some sensible posts. (Ultimately, who cares if it's a bot if it's posting relevant stuff? ;-> ) Shouldn't the FSFE be following best practice instead of false sense of security? http://www.w3.org/TR/turingtest#security
Makes sense to me.
Many forum-ish things have level of member ship.
If any level member can grant kudos to a lowlier member, such as by approving posts (until they are high enough to be self approved) then we may have a low-effort system.
Sam